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		<title>Transformational Festivals: Where Ecstatic Spirit and Sonic Celebration Unite (w/ Timeline &amp; Preview Guide)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Perry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2013/transformational-festivals-spiritual-preview-guide/"><strong>Transformational Festivals</strong>: Where Ecstatic Spirit and Sonic Celebration Unite (w/ Timeline &#038; Preview Guide)</a></p><p><p><img width="780" height="519" src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Lightning-In-A-Bottle-02.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="Transformational Festivals: Feature &amp; Timeline" /></p><div class="QuoteText">"We're not just trying to give people a place to go and dance and listen to music.  Instead, we're trying to inspire people to gather, celebrate and learn in a responsible and healthy way so they can inspire change in the world when they leave." <strong>– Dede Flemming, Lightning in a Bottle</strong></div>

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Envision-Festival-01.jpg" />
<small>Envision Festival</small>

<div class="IntroText">Regarding the typical music festival, Wanderlust Festival's PR representative Thao Le describes an environment that all of us, undoubtedly, are all-too-familiar with -- one full of "crowds, fences, mud, [and] $5 plastic water bottles." These kinds of environments invite us to socialize, party, and stand and watch performances, but rarely do they encourage us to be introspective, open, or transformed. A culture of transformational festivals, however -- ones that incorporate all the best aspects of music, yoga, art, learning, and healing -- is quickly growing to provide that very experience. In infinitely unique ways, these social, musical, and spiritual celebrations integrate a variety of multi-disciplinary offerings, while still balancing the traditional logistical aspects of funding and promotion. Despite their differences and specialties, all of these festivals share a unified goal of creating community, inspiring transformation, and spreading positivity beyond the physical limits of each festival and its participants.

<strong>In this extensive feature, we talk to founders and representatives from Envision (Costa Rica), BaliSpirit (Bali), Bliss Beat (Italy), Wanderlust (N. America), Lightning In A Bottle (CA), Gratifly (SC), Beloved (OR), Evolvefest (PA), and Symbiosis (CA), to uncover their common goals, as well as their different approaches and strengths.</strong></div>

<div class="wp-caption" style="text-align: left;"><h6>Table of Contents</h6>
<strong><a href="#grassroots">1. Grassroots Origins</a>
<a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/transformational-festivals-spiritual-preview-guide/2/">2.  A Festival for Every Body</a>
<a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/transformational-festivals-spiritual-preview-guide/3/">3.  A "Business Model" for the New Paradigm</a>
<a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/transformational-festivals-spiritual-preview-guide/4/">4.  Transformation Beyond Festival Boundaries</a>
<a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/transformational-festivals-spiritual-preview-guide/5/">5.  Timeline & Preview Guide of Transformational Festivals</a></strong></div>

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Beloved-05.jpg" />
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Beloved-03.jpg" />
<small>Beloved Festival - Photography by Zipporah Lomax</small><a name="grassroots"></a>

<h3>Grassroots Origins</h3>
Now in its ninth year, Symbiosis is one transformational festival that epitomizes the culture's emphasis on community. Bosque, one of the festival's main producers, explains that their main intention in organizing Symbiosis was to "creat[e] a container for all... different walks of life to cross paths and see that, even though they have their individuality or little clique or tribe, they also belong to a bigger collective as well." 

This idea inspired other festival organizers as well, and most transformational festivals are born from simple collective gatherings. Lightning in a Bottle, for example, started out as a birthday party, and Wanderlust grew out of discussions at a record label's headquarters. Evolvefest's founder David Bryson recalls that, "Evolvefest was borne from a small group of local artists, musicians, and educators who gathered for weekly potluck shared meals. We'd be tossing a frisbee, doing yoga, and sitting around a campfire talking about ways to organize a gathering for people... feeling that inward call to awaken and thrive." 

Elliot Rasenick, founder and producer of Tidewater, Oregon's Beloved Festival, cites many significant influences that led him to pursue the production of his own festival. After organizing underground electronic dance parties, kirtans, and other devotional or educational events, Rasenick desired to reproduce the inspiring experiences those events allowed for, such as the "profound moments of connection between people where the boundaries between us seemed to fade away" that occurred on the dance floor, the "connection with the spirit" that he felt through chanting divine names, and the chance "to share the ideas of an emerging culture" that empowered him at educational events. 

Since founding their gatherings, the creative souls behind these operations continue to seek to do more than just put on another festival year after year. According to Envision's founding partner, Justin Brother, they seek to re-imagine the festival formula entirely -- to take "a blank canvas" and paint it as they wish, while still humbly acknowledging and receiving inspiration from the bits and pieces that other festivals are doing correctly.

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Lightning-In-A-Bottle-01.jpg" />
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Lightning-In-A-Bottle-08.jpg" />
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Lightning-In-A-Bottle-03.jpg" />
<small>Lightning In A Bottle - Photography by Watchara</small>
<p>&nbsp;</p></p></p><p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a> <br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2013/transformational-festivals-spiritual-preview-guide/"><strong>Transformational Festivals</strong>: Where Ecstatic Spirit and Sonic Celebration Unite (w/ Timeline &#038; Preview Guide)</a></p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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<small>Envision Festival</small>

<div class="IntroText">Regarding the typical music festival, Wanderlust Festival's PR representative Thao Le describes an environment that all of us, undoubtedly, are all-too-familiar with -- one full of "crowds, fences, mud, [and] $5 plastic water bottles." These kinds of environments invite us to socialize, party, and stand and watch performances, but rarely do they encourage us to be introspective, open, or transformed. A culture of transformational festivals, however -- ones that incorporate all the best aspects of music, yoga, art, learning, and healing -- is quickly growing to provide that very experience. In infinitely unique ways, these social, musical, and spiritual celebrations integrate a variety of multi-disciplinary offerings, while still balancing the traditional logistical aspects of funding and promotion. Despite their differences and specialties, all of these festivals share a unified goal of creating community, inspiring transformation, and spreading positivity beyond the physical limits of each festival and its participants.

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		<title>Rob Sato Artist Interview: Fantasy and Reality Bridged by Words and Images</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria Schettino</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2013/rob-sato-artist-interview/"><strong>Rob Sato Artist Interview</strong>: Fantasy and Reality Bridged by Words and Images</a></p><p><p><img width="780" height="650" src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Rob-Sato-01.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="Rob Sato Artist Interview" /></p><a href="/2013/rob-sato-artist-interview"><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Rob-Sato-01.jpg" class="aligncenter" /></a>

<div class="IntroText">Los Angeles-based artist Rob Sato is more than a painter of fantastical watercolor dreamscapes. Challenging his own magnificent talent as a masterful visual creator, Sato is also a prolific consumer of culture. Profoundly influenced by historical events, dynamic music, and piles of life-changing books, he is able to channel many diverse creative explorations into colorfully horrific and disarmingly beautiful works of art; his work is an intriguing amalgam of childhood fantasies and literary consequence, adeptly bridging the gap between fantasy and reality.</div>

<div class="QuoteText">"Writing feels like it comes from a separate part of the brain than where imagery generates from, so when I'm having trouble on a painting, I can turn to the writing to think about things from a different angle." <strong>-- Rob Sato</strong></div>

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<h3>Bent on Literature</h3>
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Rob-Sato-04.jpg" class="alignright" />Initially concerned with designing engaging narratives with his painting, Sato learned to place storytelling at the center of his process. It was, as he calls it, "the stock of the semiotic soup I was trying to cook." Sato's focus on narrative, however, was at times a detriment to the organic realization of his pieces; his attempt at incorporating it into everything he painted often left him struggling to "jam narrative in where it didn't belong."

To solve this problem, Sato now prefers to let the work unfold as it pleases. "The paintings tend to be better when I let the emotional impact of the visuals and the joy of the materials lead the way," he says. "That's not to say that I've abandoned narrative painting. I still do it, but only if it comes along naturally and feels right, as opposed to storytelling always being the main goal."

Words have always played a significant role in Sato's life, and his penchant for storytelling may come from his interest in reading and writing. "[Writing] can be a really useful tool to clarify ideas or to break through some creative blockage," he shares. "[It] feels like it comes from a separate part of the brain than where imagery generates from, so when I'm having trouble on a painting, I can turn to the writing to think about things from a different angle." 

Books, too, are particularly meaningful. "There seems to have been one major world-rocking reading experience per decade in which I've been alive," he explains. "As a kid, it was <em>From the Mixed Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler</em>. I just read this again recently, and it's still wonderful. In my teens it was nearly everything by Kurt Vonnegut."<div class="Clear"></div>

Particularly fascinated by Vonnegut's <em>Breakfast of Champions</em> and <em>Cat's Cradle</em>, Sato received the latter while he served a short jail sentence for the unlikely charge of <em>Grand Theft Food</em>. Sato and his friends were convicted of stealing 27 pounds of vanilla pudding and 19 boxes of bulk pasta from fraternity house kitchens in Berkeley, California – a crime serious enough to be slapped with Grand Theft – but silly enough to make the judge laugh. Ultimately, it was due to the length of his incarceration and the brevity of <em>Cat's Cradle</em> that Sato found both annoyance and inspiration in the book. "I ended up reading it eight times in two days, and it didn't get old. That's a combination of that book being incredibly entertaining and jail being relentlessly boring," he recalls.

In his late twenties, Sato's interest veered to the unlikely lepidopterist and famed Russian novelist, Vladimir Nabokov.  "I finally got around to reading <em>Lolita</em>," he explains. "It's probably the funniest, most disconcerting, most diabolical thing I'll ever read."
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Rob-Sato-02.jpg" class="aligncenter" />

<h3>Freed by Restriction</h3>
Just as Sato's reverence for words allows him the freedom to think differently, his use of watercolor is liberating by virtue of its limitations. "Watercolor simply isn't as flexible as acrylic or oil," he says of the medium's limitations. "You can mix oil and acrylics with all kinds of stuff. You can correct mistakes and change your mind almost infinitely. You can also build a surface with oils and acrylics, sand them, scrape into them, beat the shit out of them. By contrast, watercolor is pretty much just water, paint and paper. It's a delicate medium. Once a mark is made it cannot really be unmade, though the paint does reactivate somewhat when you rewet it, which becomes important when planning out how you want to layer your washes or glazes or how much fussing you want to do in a particular area. You have to improvise with a ‘mistake' rather than correct or paint over it. For me, this limitation has been oddly freeing."
The confluence of his varied inspiration and the liberating nature of the medium manifests in many different ways. Some pieces come together quickly while others require more thoughtful design.

"Sometimes a piece is suddenly right there, ready to go, because all the elements for an explosion have come together. It's wonderful when that happens. Often, I have no idea that I've been gathering those forces, and then, without thinking, they just get unleashed," explains Sato. 

This creates a raw and powerful result, but Sato admits to finding joy in longer, more conscious thought processes. "Sometimes there's an idea that was just there but didn't mean that much to me before, then suddenly it jives with things that I've been reading or writing lately or seems to relate to the world in a way that it hadn't before," he says. "Sometimes I just get an emotional charge from a composition, but haven't figured out what to put into it or the right way to put it together. It's really all about getting a piece to vibrate in some way so that it becomes a presence in the world that lives and breathes, a creation that is more than the sum of its parts."<p>&nbsp;</p>

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<h3>Inspired by the Subconscious</h3>
With elements of horror, grotesque transformations, and whimsical beauty, the images Sato creates suggest a certain subconscious meandering akin to the surrealist movement. He prefers, however, not to brandish this particular identifier. While he is fond of early surrealist theory as it is bound by imagery drawn directly from the subconscious, he feels the meaning of the term itself has been corrupted.

"I feel like most of what proclaims itself to be surrealism now (even a lot of stuff then, really) is over-manipulated, utterly but feebly conscious and repetitive imagery, lazily slurped from a depressingly shallow, lifeless myth pool," says Sato, while even going as far as posturing that "the word <em>surreal</em> is better applied to life outside of the arts now." 
Finding a place where dreams and reality meet may be the ultimate objective, and this idea is perhaps most visible in Sato's <em>Peace at Last in a Future Passed</em> -- a painting where the reconciliation of fantasy and reality manifests as the struggle to accept the inevitable realities of adulthood. Maturity becomes the metaphorical slayer of childish aphorisms. The painting depicts a giant decaying robot speckled with dilapidated aircraft, electrical towers, and battle armaments. With one arm missing and decomposing bits falling from its massive form, the image is captivating whilst being disturbing.  

"<em>Future Passed</em> [bridges the gap between fantasy and reality] in a different, much more specific way than any of my other work," describes Sato, "by mixing my childhood fantasies of heroism and adventurism with more mature ideas and knowledge about the reality of war." 

While Sato's thoughtful intent is clear within the details, it is the subtlety of color and the impetuous style of the brushstrokes that reveal something raw and wonderful. It is an affectionate struggle between real and imagined, and the harmony he seeks is daftly aided by his beloved watercolors. "There's a joy in finding the balance between my controlling nature and the fluid chaos of the medium," says Sato.

While armed with a headful of ideas, he is simultaneously committed to surrendering to the sublime. What makes Sato's work stand out is that he is able to balance discipline with turmoil. This interplay between intellectual design and subconscious renderings results in a uniquely Sato-esque universe where dreams are both tantalizing and terrifying, and reality is a pliable concept.

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<div class="IntroText">Los Angeles-based artist Rob Sato is more than a painter of fantastical watercolor dreamscapes. Challenging his own magnificent talent as a masterful visual creator, Sato is also a prolific consumer of culture. Profoundly influenced by historical events, dynamic music, and piles of life-changing books, he is able to channel many diverse creative explorations into colorfully horrific and disarmingly beautiful works of art; his work is an intriguing amalgam of childhood fantasies and literary consequence, adeptly bridging the gap between fantasy and reality.</div>

<div class="QuoteText">"Writing feels like it comes from a separate part of the brain than where imagery generates from, so when I'm having trouble on a painting, I can turn to the writing to think about things from a different angle." <strong>-- Rob Sato</strong></div>

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<h3>Bent on Literature</h3>
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013_Rob-Sato-04.jpg" class="alignright" />Initially concerned with designing engaging narratives with his painting, Sato learned to place storytelling at the center of his process. It was, as he calls it, "the stock of the semiotic soup I was trying to cook." Sato's focus on narrative, however, was at times a detriment to the organic realization of his pieces; his attempt at incorporating it into everything he painted often left him struggling to "jam narrative in where it didn't belong."

To solve this problem, Sato now prefers to let the work unfold as it pleases. "The paintings tend to be better when I let the emotional impact of the visuals and the joy of the materials lead the way," he says. "That's not to say that I've abandoned narrative painting. I still do it, but only if it comes along naturally and feels right, as opposed to storytelling always being the main goal."

Words have always played a significant role in Sato's life, and his penchant for storytelling may come from his interest in reading and writing. "[Writing] can be a really useful tool to clarify ideas or to break through some creative blockage," he shares. "[It] feels like it comes from a separate part of the brain than where imagery generates from, so when I'm having trouble on a painting, I can turn to the writing to think about things from a different angle." 

Books, too, are particularly meaningful. "There seems to have been one major world-rocking reading experience per decade in which I've been alive," he explains. "As a kid, it was <em>From the Mixed Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler</em>. I just read this again recently, and it's still wonderful. In my teens it was nearly everything by Kurt Vonnegut."<div class="Clear"></div>

Particularly fascinated by Vonnegut's <em>Breakfast of Champions</em> and <em>Cat's Cradle</em>, Sato received the latter while he served a short jail sentence for the unlikely charge of <em>Grand Theft Food</em>. Sato and his friends were convicted of stealing 27 pounds of vanilla pudding and 19 boxes of bulk pasta from fraternity house kitchens in Berkeley, California – a crime serious enough to be slapped with Grand Theft – but silly enough to make the judge laugh. Ultimately, it was due to the length of his incarceration and the brevity of <em>Cat's Cradle</em> that Sato found both annoyance and inspiration in the book. "I ended up reading it eight times in two days, and it didn't get old. That's a combination of that book being incredibly entertaining and jail being relentlessly boring," he recalls.

In his late twenties, Sato's interest veered to the unlikely lepidopterist and famed Russian novelist, Vladimir Nabokov.  "I finally got around to reading <em>Lolita</em>," he explains. "It's probably the funniest, most disconcerting, most diabolical thing I'll ever read."
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<h3>Freed by Restriction</h3>
Just as Sato's reverence for words allows him the freedom to think differently, his use of watercolor is liberating by virtue of its limitations. "Watercolor simply isn't as flexible as acrylic or oil," he says of the medium's limitations. "You can mix oil and acrylics with all kinds of stuff. You can correct mistakes and change your mind almost infinitely. You can also build a surface with oils and acrylics, sand them, scrape into them, beat the shit out of them. By contrast, watercolor is pretty much just water, paint and paper. It's a delicate medium. Once a mark is made it cannot really be unmade, though the paint does reactivate somewhat when you rewet it, which becomes important when planning out how you want to layer your washes or glazes or how much fussing you want to do in a particular area. You have to improvise with a ‘mistake' rather than correct or paint over it. For me, this limitation has been oddly freeing."
The confluence of his varied inspiration and the liberating nature of the medium manifests in many different ways. Some pieces come together quickly while others require more thoughtful design.

"Sometimes a piece is suddenly right there, ready to go, because all the elements for an explosion have come together. It's wonderful when that happens. Often, I have no idea that I've been gathering those forces, and then, without thinking, they just get unleashed," explains Sato. 

This creates a raw and powerful result, but Sato admits to finding joy in longer, more conscious thought processes. "Sometimes there's an idea that was just there but didn't mean that much to me before, then suddenly it jives with things that I've been reading or writing lately or seems to relate to the world in a way that it hadn't before," he says. "Sometimes I just get an emotional charge from a composition, but haven't figured out what to put into it or the right way to put it together. It's really all about getting a piece to vibrate in some way so that it becomes a presence in the world that lives and breathes, a creation that is more than the sum of its parts."<p>&nbsp;</p>

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<h3>Inspired by the Subconscious</h3>
With elements of horror, grotesque transformations, and whimsical beauty, the images Sato creates suggest a certain subconscious meandering akin to the surrealist movement. He prefers, however, not to brandish this particular identifier. While he is fond of early surrealist theory as it is bound by imagery drawn directly from the subconscious, he feels the meaning of the term itself has been corrupted.

"I feel like most of what proclaims itself to be surrealism now (even a lot of stuff then, really) is over-manipulated, utterly but feebly conscious and repetitive imagery, lazily slurped from a depressingly shallow, lifeless myth pool," says Sato, while even going as far as posturing that "the word <em>surreal</em> is better applied to life outside of the arts now." 
Finding a place where dreams and reality meet may be the ultimate objective, and this idea is perhaps most visible in Sato's <em>Peace at Last in a Future Passed</em> -- a painting where the reconciliation of fantasy and reality manifests as the struggle to accept the inevitable realities of adulthood. Maturity becomes the metaphorical slayer of childish aphorisms. The painting depicts a giant decaying robot speckled with dilapidated aircraft, electrical towers, and battle armaments. With one arm missing and decomposing bits falling from its massive form, the image is captivating whilst being disturbing.  

"<em>Future Passed</em> [bridges the gap between fantasy and reality] in a different, much more specific way than any of my other work," describes Sato, "by mixing my childhood fantasies of heroism and adventurism with more mature ideas and knowledge about the reality of war." 

While Sato's thoughtful intent is clear within the details, it is the subtlety of color and the impetuous style of the brushstrokes that reveal something raw and wonderful. It is an affectionate struggle between real and imagined, and the harmony he seeks is daftly aided by his beloved watercolors. "There's a joy in finding the balance between my controlling nature and the fluid chaos of the medium," says Sato.

While armed with a headful of ideas, he is simultaneously committed to surrendering to the sublime. What makes Sato's work stand out is that he is able to balance discipline with turmoil. This interplay between intellectual design and subconscious renderings results in a uniquely Sato-esque universe where dreams are both tantalizing and terrifying, and reality is a pliable concept.

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		<description><![CDATA[<p><p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2013/frank-correa-photographer-interview-seattle-photography/"><strong>Frank Correa Photographer Interview</strong>: Color-Drenched Urban Fantasies // Entrevista con el Fotógrafo Frank Correa: Fantasias Urbanas Saturadas de Color</a></p><p><p><img width="780" height="517" src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/2013_Frank-Correa-12.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="Frank Correa Seattle Photographer Interview" /></p><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/2013_Frank-Correa-11.jpg" class="aligncenter" />
<div class="Preview-TwoColumn"><small>ENGLISH TEXT & INTERVIEW BY VIVIAN HUA</small>
<div class="IntroText">In line with my persistent belief that an artist’s creative output is reflective of who he or she is as a human being, I have to admit that I was a little bit nervous to meet Seattle photographer <strong><a href="http://frankcorrea.tumblr.com/" target="new">Frank Correa</a></strong>, and it’s because of pre-conceived judgments. Correa’s images almost always feature well-dressed and attractive models that American Apparel would approve of, often placed in awkward poses that Vice in the early 2000s would definitely approve of. They could easily be considered “hipster” by any stereotypical or isolated viewing.

With my only hints into his personality being our overly-friendly internet communications and his off-the-wall photographic work, my mind reeled through possible iterations of what Correa might be like. By most accounts, I gathered that he would be fairly friendly – but I must shamefully confess that I was torn on whether or not Correa would be genuine in his artistic pursuit – and considering his extremely definitive style, my sometimes docile self also wondered if he might be bigger-than-life and over-the-top, or pretentious and intimidating.

As I wait outside of Correa’s apartment in Capitol Hill, which he shares with a member of Seattle electro-noise band Crypts, the feeling of nervousness persists. Correa arrives minutes after I do and greets me through the thin cloth of a purple shirt, its attached facemask pulled up past his nose. Mysterious. Inside, though, Correa quickly makes it obvious that he is hiding nothing; he raises the blinds immediately, to shine light upon the impressively sparse and tidy living room, which also serves as a creative workspace. Lining its walls is an analog modular synthesizer rig for his roommate, and for Correa, a desktop and giant TV screen doubling as a computer monitor.

He immediately proves himself a thoughtful host. He offers me Perrier on the rocks almost as soon as I sit down… and as I easily and comfortably settle in, I note to myself that I am a douche. Previous checklist of reservations? Completely off-base and unwarranted. Correa’s animated, yes – and talkative, extremely – but intimidating or over-the-top? No. Genuine? Without a doubt.</div></div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn"><small>SPANISH TRANSLATION BY TANYA E. ORELLANA</small>
<div class="IntroText-Spanish">De acuerdo con mi constante creencia de que la producción creativa de un artista es reflejo de quien él ó ella es como ser humano, tengo que admitir que estaba un poquito nerviosa de conocer al fotógrafo de Seattle <strong><a href="http://frankcorrea.tumblr.com/" target="new">Frank Correa</a></strong>, en mayor parte debido a nociones preconcebidas. Las imágenes de Correa casi siempre muestran modelos atractivos y bien vestidos, del tipo al que American Apparel le gustarían, muchas veces puestos en poses fuera de lo común, de las que la revista Vice al principio de los 2000s definitivamente hubiera aprobado. Podrían ser considerados “hipster” por cualquier visión estereotípica o aislada.

Siendo mis únicas pistas de su personalidad nuestras conversaciones súper amigables por internet y su extraordinario trabajo fotográfico, mi mente imaginaba las posibilidades de como podría ser Correa. Por lo que había escuchado, parecía que seria lo suficientemente amistoso – pero debo confesar de que no estaba segura si Correa seria genuino en su propuesta artística – y considerando su estilo extremadamente absoluto, mi lado dócil se preguntaba si él podría ser  un tipo de personalidad exagerada y desmesurada, o pretencioso e intimidante.

Mientras espero afuera del apartamento de Correa en Capitol Hill, el cual comparte con un miembro de Crypts, un conjunto de electro-noise de Seattle, mis nervios persisten. Correa llega minutos después de mi y me saluda a través de la delgada tela de su camisa morada, la cual incluye una máscara que le cubre la cara hasta la nariz. Misterioso. Pero adentro, Correa hace obvio que no esta escondiendo nada; abre las cortinas inmediatamente para iluminar una sala impresionantemente vacía y limpia, la cual se presta también como espacio y taller creativo. Decorando las paredes se encuentra una instalación para el sintetizador modular analógico de su compañero de apartamento, y para Correa, un escritorio y una pantalla de televisión gigante que también funciona como monitor de computadora. 

Inmediatamente me demuestra que es un anfitrión atento. Me ofrece Perrier en las rocas casi inmediatamente después de sentarme… y mientras me voy acopiando de manera fácil y cómoda, hago una nota mental a mi misma de que he sido muy mala onda. Mi previa lista de dudas? Completamente fuera de lugar e injustificada. Correa es animado, si – y hablador, al extremo – pero intimidante y exagerado? No. Genuino? Sin duda.</div></div><div class="Clear"></div>

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<div class="Preview-TwoColumn"><div class="IntroText">Moments into our meeting, Correa begins launching into intimate stories as though we are destined to be friends. We speak briefly of his Peruvian upbringing and his birth in Lima, which undoubtedly influence his general outlook and being, though perhaps implicitly. At this point in time, Correa is becoming reacquainted with his heritage as he makes strides to become closer to his artist father and rekindles interest in ancient Peru. He speaks of his fascination with Machu Picchu and the likelihood that more people were artists in the ages before the internet; he recalls shamanic healing methods used by his grandmother, who raised him. All these certainly tie back in with Correa's general interests. Throughout our interview, he speaks tangentially of astrological patterns, making love to trees, and accidental experiences with astral projection. He may not be intimidating, but he’s certainly “out there” by traditional standards -- though that should certainly be the <em>least</em> one would expect from someone making hypercolored works as diabolically genius, contextually bizarre, and harnessing of “WTF”-ness as Correa.</div></div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn"><div class="IntroText-Spanish">Varios momentos dentro de nuestra conversación, Correa empieza a contar historias íntimas como si estuviéramos destinados a ser amigos. Hablamos brevemente de su crianza peruana y su nacimiento en Lima, los cuales sin duda ejercen influencia sobre la perspectivas de él, aunque sea de manera implícita. En estos momentos, Correa empieza a familiarizarse con su patrimonio una vez mas mientras hace esfuerzos para acercarse a su padre que también es artista y vuelve a retomar interés en el antiguo Perú. Habla de su fascinación con Machu Picchu y la posibilidad de que muchas mas personas eran artistas en los tiempos antes del internet; él recuerda métodos de sanación shamánica usados por su abuela, quien lo crió. Todas estas materias ciertamente están relacionadas con los intereses generales de Correa. A través de nuestra entrevista, él habla de manera tangente de patrones astrológicos, de hacerle el amor a los árboles y experiencias accidentales con la proyección astral. Puede que no sea un tipo intimidante, pero es ciertamente un tipo fuera de lo común de acuerdo a las normas tradicionales – pero esas cualidades, son ciertamente lo que menos se esperaría uno de alguien que crea trabajos hyperpigmentados, diabólicamente geniales y contextualmente bizarros como lo hace Correa.</div></div><div class="Clear"></div>

<div class="QuoteText">“I just kind of go and feel it out – what looks good, the chemistry, so that everything’s just kind of organic, spontaneous, in the moment." <strong>-- Frank Correa</strong>

“Simplemente llego y me guio por lo que siento – que es lo que se ve bien, la química, de esta manera todo es simplemente así como orgánico, espontáneo, de ese momento.” <strong>-- Frank Correa</strong></div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn">Prior to meeting him, I’d heard an anecdote through the grapevine about Correa’s process which seemed the makings of legend. He had recently been hired to shoot photos for the psychedelic band <strong><a href="/tag/midday-veil">Midday Veil</a></strong>, and though he took his time in composing the image, he only took one shot when it came time to click the shutter. Improbable as it seems, this is apparently a common practice for Correa, who rarely has anything planned beforehand.

“I just kind of go and feel it out – what looks good, the chemistry, so that everything’s just kind of organic, spontaneous, in the moment,” he explains.

The brunt of the work, then, lies in the aftermath of the initial shot.

“What takes the most time is editing, post-editing. That’s when I’m like, alright, it’s a whole new thing. It has nothing to do with photo shoot day, because what happens there then is just the backbone to what will happen,” he says. “With the rest, I fill up and add on and paint it and make it the way I want it. A lot of times, I never know what it’s going to look like until I get my film back, and then I work on it.”</div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn MainText-Spanish">Antes de conocerlo, escuché una anécdota sobre el proceso creativo de Correa, el cual pareciera ser el principio de una leyenda. Acababa de ser recientemente contratado para tomar fotografías de el conjunto psicodélico "<strong><a href="/tag/midday-veil">Midday Veil</a></strong>" y aunque se tomó su tiempo creando la composición de la imagen, cuando llegó la hora de apretar el botón de la cámara, tomó únicamente una foto. Tan raro  como pueda parecer, esta es una práctica común para Correa, quien raramente tiene las cosas planeadas antes de empezar a trabajar. 

Nos explica, “Simplemente llego y me guio por lo que siento – que es lo que se ve bien, la química, de esta manera todo es simplemente así como orgánico, espontáneo, de ese momento.” 

Es así que la mayoría de la obra, se basa sobre el resultado de la toma inicial. 

“Lo que toma mas tiempo es la edición. Es ahí cuando me doy cuenta de que es toda una obra nueva. No tiene nada que ver con el día de la sesión de fotos porque lo que pasó ahí es simplemente el esqueleto de lo que va a ser,” nos dice. “Con el resto, lleno, agrego, lo pinto y lo convierto en lo que quiero. Muchas veces, nunca sé como se va a ver hasta que me regresan el último negativo y me pongo a trabajar en él."</div><div class="Clear"></div>
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<small>FRANK CORREA PHOTOGRAPHER INTERVIEW CONTINUES BELOW</small>
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<div class="Preview-TwoColumn">Correa shoots using an array of crappy ‘90s film cameras that are constantly being swapped out for “new” but equally crappy ones. These tools seem chosen not in a calculated Polaroid hipness kind of way, but in a “this works just fine”, tried-and-true kind of way. A bit of chance also brought the medium to his attention.

“I actually started with digital – but I didn’t like the idea of taking all of these photos and breaking your head with which one you like better. And I didn’t like the look of it [back then]… One time, the camera kind of started fucking up, and luckily, I had a disposable camera,” recalls Correa.

Those circumstances led him to the discovery that he liked the look of film better than digital; and with affordable film processing at Walgreen’s, disposable cameras proved themselves to be a cheap and efficient tools.

“I could just get three and snap around, whatever… I liked the process and how easy it was,” he shares.

Correa opens up Photoshop to give me a sneak peak into the barebones components of his process – something he assures me he almost never shows to anyone. I am instantly amazed by the extent to which the original differs from the final product. The initial photo is hardly fancy or flattering at all; it is merely the canvas for more robust work of the imagination. Correa’s photos are also digital collages manipulated to the nth degree, into which he mixes an array of supplementary images. He shoots photos on his iPhone, pulls stock photography off the internet, and scans images from books and magazines – whatever is necessary to create his off-kilter worlds of fantasy.

But what is most immediately gripping about Correa’s work, and most vital to his embrace of the digital medium, is his bold use of colors. Bright neons manipulate and deform pixels, sharpen edges in uncanny ways, and add fascinating degrees of hardness into a world of soft humans. Nonetheless, it is ultimately the humans – adventurous ones who are willing to serve in Correa’s world – that really makes the pieces pop.

“I guess I’m lucky, because I have friends that are just down… people, friends, who are willing to do anything,” explains Correa.</div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn MainText-Spanish">Correa fotografía utilizando una variedad de cámaras de rollo fotográficos de los '90s que constantemente están siendo cambiadas por  cámaras “nuevas” pero igual de mediocres. Estas herramientas parecen haber sido escogidas no a propósito como cuando se usa Polaroid porque esta de moda si no porque “simplemente funciona” y esto es un hecho comprobado. También, un poco de suerte le hizo poner atención a este medio.

“En realidad empecé digital – pero no me gustaba la idea de tomar todas estas fotografías y después romperte la cabeza para ver cual te gusta más. Y no me gustaba como se veía [en ese entonces]… Un día, la cámara empezó a no querer trabajar, y por suerte, yo traía una cámara desechable,” se acuerda Correa.

Fueron esas circunstancias las que lo llevaron a descubrir que le gustaba más como se veía el rollo fotográfico que lo digital, y con revelado de negativos a precios razonables en Walgreen’s, las cámaras desechables probaron ser una herramienta baratas y efectivas.

“Yo podía llegar y simplemente tomar fotos, lo que fuera… me gustó el proceso y lo fácil que es.” 

Correa abre Photoshop para darme un anticipo de los elementos básicos de su proceso – algo que me asegura casi nunca le muestra a nadie. Inmediatamente, me encuentro asombrada por lo mucho que la copia original es diferente al producto final. La foto inicial es corta de ser sofisticada o halagadora; es simplemente el lienzo para una obra mas robusta de la imaginación. Las fotografías de Correa son también un collage digital manipulado al máximo, dentro de las cuales combina una variedad de imágenes suplementales. Él toma fotos en su iPhone, saca fotos ya existentes del internet, y escanea imagines de libros y revistas – lo que sea necesario para crear sus mundos de fantasía fuera de lo común.

Pero lo que inmediatamente llama la atención sobre el trabajo de correa, y lo mas vital sobre su acogida al medio digital, es su atrevido uso de colores. Neones brillantes manipulan y deforman pixeles, incrementan los bordes de las imágenes de manera sorprendente, y agregan altos niveles de aspereza en un mundo de humanos suaves. Sin embargo, a final de cuentas son los humanos – aventureros que están dispuestos a servir en el mundo de Correa – quienes realmente hacen que la imagen se destaque. 

“Supongo que tengo suerte porque tengo amigos que se prestan a este tipo de trabajo… gente, amigos que están dispuestos a hacer lo que sea,” explica Correa.</div><div class="Clear"></div>
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<div class="QuoteText">"I want more emotion. I want to make it more cinematographic, if that even applies on this. Just more feeling." <strong>- Frank Correa</strong>

"Quiero mas emoción. Quiero que sea mas cinematográfico, si se puede. Quiero mas sentimiento." <strong>- Frank Correa</strong></div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn">This willingness to be a part of the art extends to nudity in large but tasteful degree, as well as poses and positions that create striking visual forms. Correa’s models are like dancers caught in still frames, as they tumble in upside-down and contorted positions, hold still in yogic forms, and seem to be suspended in various stages of animation. Very little of it is what you would find in traditional portraiture.

“[The poses] just kind of come to me, but I always tell myself as I get my photos back at this point that I feel like I want to start telling people to give me more drama and not just stand there in a pose. I want more emotion,” he explains. “I want to make it more cinematographic, if that even applies on this. Just more feeling.”

Correa’s photography is getting more and more attention, and he is becoming known for his definitive style – but he wants to push himself to do different things. He fantasizes about doing underwater shots, or even traversing the world of skydiving if it would yield a worthwhile photographic result. In the meantime, he is working on a new series of work that will come with a whole new style.

“I am in a weird stage [right now] because people know me for what they’ve seen, but there’s actually so much that hasn’t been out yet that I’m actually working on and am excited about,” Correa explains. He parallels the slow process of showing his work to that of recording music. “You record a rock song, and it doesn’t come out until a year later after it’s gone through all this shit, and it’s kind of annoying, because I’m already over this, but it hasn’t seen the light of day yet.”

To the outside and casual observer, it may be difficult to tell what has changed in Correa’s new series of works, for they still adhere to many of the same basic color palettes and conceptual principles as before. It is only when the new and the old are compared side-by-side that one begins to see the increased focus on composition and more challenging use of angles and forms in the new batch. But what is even more important than visual clues is Correa’s evolution in understanding and accepting his own vision. As he sounds off about his recent revelations and philosophical changes, I come back to square one of our meeting, for his defenses are down, and it is striking how earnest and particular he is about his goals. 

“Now, I know what [my photos] are rather than, ‘I don’t know what I’m doing; I’m just doing what looks good.’ I know what I want,” Correa says, of his past year of growth. “I’ve always been producing, exercising, and I feel like I went through my exercise phase – but [now]… I feel like people recognize it more and I spend more time, more care, more love. They’re like my babies. Before it was all fun and games, whatever, photo shoots. But now I’m serious, in the best way.”</div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn MainText-Spanish">Esta disponibilidad para ser parte de una obra de arte, se expande a la desnudez en un nivel alto pero de buen gusto, así como también poses y posiciones que crean formas visuales sorprendentes. Los modelos de Correa son como bailarines capturados en el momento, cayendo de cabeza a media voltereta y en posiciones contorsionadas, inertes en posiciones de yoga, y pareciera que estuviesen suspendidos en varios niveles de animación. Es muy poco de esto lo que uno se encontraría en un retrato tradicional.

“[La pose] simplemente me llega, pero siempre me digo a mi mismo que a este punto siento que quiero empezar a pedirle a los modelos que me dan mas drama y que no solo estén ahí parados. Quiero mas emoción,” él nos explica. “Quiero que sea mas cinematográfico, si se puede. Quiero mas sentimiento.” 

Las fotografías de Correa están empezando a recibir mas y mas atención, y esta llegando a ser conocido por su estilo absoluto – pero quiere esforzarse a hacer cosas diferentes. Tiene fantasías de hacer tomas bajo el agua, o incluso cruzar dentro del mundo de paracaidismo si esto significaría producir un resultado fotográfico que valga la pena. Mientras tanto, él está trabajando en  una nueva serie de obras que tendrán un estilo completamente nuevo. 

“Me encuentro en un periodo raro [en estos momentos] porque la gente me conoce por lo que han visto, pero en realidad hay todavía tanto que no ha salido aún, en el que estoy trabajando y por el cual estoy emocionado,” Correa explica. Hace paralelos entre el lento proceso de mostrar su trabajo a el de grabar música. “Cuando grabas una canción de rock, y no sale al público sino hasta después de un año y habiendo pasado por mucho, es un poco molesto porque ya has perdido interés y tu trabajo ni si quiera ha visto la luz del día aún.”

Al observador casual y ajeno, se le podría hacer difícil reconocer qué es lo que ha cambiado en la nueva serie de obras de Correa, porque continúan adhiriéndose a muchas de las mismas paletas básicas de colores y principios conceptuales que anteriormente. Es solamente cuando lo nuevo y lo viejo son comparados lado a lado que uno empieza a ver el enfoque incrementado en la composición y el uso más desafiante de ángulos y formas en la nueva serie. Pero lo que es aún mas importante que las pistas visuales, es la evolución de Correa en el entendimiento y aceptación de su propia visión. Mientras continua hablando de sus recientes revelaciones y cambios filosóficos, regreso al principio de nuestra entrevista, él ha bajado la guardia y es admirable lo serio y particular que es sobre sus objetivos. 

“Ahora, sé lo que son [mis fotos] en lugar de ‘no se lo que estoy haciendo, solo se que se ve bien.’ Sé que es lo que quiero,” nos dice Correa sobre el pasado año de crecimiento. “Siempre he estado produciendo, practicando, y siento que pase por mi etapa de práctica – pero [ahora]… siento que la gente lo reconoce mas y le pongo mas tiempo, mas cuidado, mas amor. Son como mis bebés. Antes, todo era diversión y juegos, sesiones de foto de lo que fuera. Pero ahora, soy mas serio, de la mejor manera posible.” </div><div class="Clear"></div>

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<div class="Preview-TwoColumn"><small>ENGLISH TEXT & INTERVIEW BY VIVIAN HUA</small>
<div class="IntroText">In line with my persistent belief that an artist’s creative output is reflective of who he or she is as a human being, I have to admit that I was a little bit nervous to meet Seattle photographer <strong><a href="http://frankcorrea.tumblr.com/" target="new">Frank Correa</a></strong>, and it’s because of pre-conceived judgments. Correa’s images almost always feature well-dressed and attractive models that American Apparel would approve of, often placed in awkward poses that Vice in the early 2000s would definitely approve of. They could easily be considered “hipster” by any stereotypical or isolated viewing.

With my only hints into his personality being our overly-friendly internet communications and his off-the-wall photographic work, my mind reeled through possible iterations of what Correa might be like. By most accounts, I gathered that he would be fairly friendly – but I must shamefully confess that I was torn on whether or not Correa would be genuine in his artistic pursuit – and considering his extremely definitive style, my sometimes docile self also wondered if he might be bigger-than-life and over-the-top, or pretentious and intimidating.

As I wait outside of Correa’s apartment in Capitol Hill, which he shares with a member of Seattle electro-noise band Crypts, the feeling of nervousness persists. Correa arrives minutes after I do and greets me through the thin cloth of a purple shirt, its attached facemask pulled up past his nose. Mysterious. Inside, though, Correa quickly makes it obvious that he is hiding nothing; he raises the blinds immediately, to shine light upon the impressively sparse and tidy living room, which also serves as a creative workspace. Lining its walls is an analog modular synthesizer rig for his roommate, and for Correa, a desktop and giant TV screen doubling as a computer monitor.

He immediately proves himself a thoughtful host. He offers me Perrier on the rocks almost as soon as I sit down… and as I easily and comfortably settle in, I note to myself that I am a douche. Previous checklist of reservations? Completely off-base and unwarranted. Correa’s animated, yes – and talkative, extremely – but intimidating or over-the-top? No. Genuine? Without a doubt.</div></div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn"><small>SPANISH TRANSLATION BY TANYA E. ORELLANA</small>
<div class="IntroText-Spanish">De acuerdo con mi constante creencia de que la producción creativa de un artista es reflejo de quien él ó ella es como ser humano, tengo que admitir que estaba un poquito nerviosa de conocer al fotógrafo de Seattle <strong><a href="http://frankcorrea.tumblr.com/" target="new">Frank Correa</a></strong>, en mayor parte debido a nociones preconcebidas. Las imágenes de Correa casi siempre muestran modelos atractivos y bien vestidos, del tipo al que American Apparel le gustarían, muchas veces puestos en poses fuera de lo común, de las que la revista Vice al principio de los 2000s definitivamente hubiera aprobado. Podrían ser considerados “hipster” por cualquier visión estereotípica o aislada.

Siendo mis únicas pistas de su personalidad nuestras conversaciones súper amigables por internet y su extraordinario trabajo fotográfico, mi mente imaginaba las posibilidades de como podría ser Correa. Por lo que había escuchado, parecía que seria lo suficientemente amistoso – pero debo confesar de que no estaba segura si Correa seria genuino en su propuesta artística – y considerando su estilo extremadamente absoluto, mi lado dócil se preguntaba si él podría ser  un tipo de personalidad exagerada y desmesurada, o pretencioso e intimidante.

Mientras espero afuera del apartamento de Correa en Capitol Hill, el cual comparte con un miembro de Crypts, un conjunto de electro-noise de Seattle, mis nervios persisten. Correa llega minutos después de mi y me saluda a través de la delgada tela de su camisa morada, la cual incluye una máscara que le cubre la cara hasta la nariz. Misterioso. Pero adentro, Correa hace obvio que no esta escondiendo nada; abre las cortinas inmediatamente para iluminar una sala impresionantemente vacía y limpia, la cual se presta también como espacio y taller creativo. Decorando las paredes se encuentra una instalación para el sintetizador modular analógico de su compañero de apartamento, y para Correa, un escritorio y una pantalla de televisión gigante que también funciona como monitor de computadora. 

Inmediatamente me demuestra que es un anfitrión atento. Me ofrece Perrier en las rocas casi inmediatamente después de sentarme… y mientras me voy acopiando de manera fácil y cómoda, hago una nota mental a mi misma de que he sido muy mala onda. Mi previa lista de dudas? Completamente fuera de lugar e injustificada. Correa es animado, si – y hablador, al extremo – pero intimidante y exagerado? No. Genuino? Sin duda.</div></div><div class="Clear"></div>

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<div class="Preview-TwoColumn"><div class="IntroText">Moments into our meeting, Correa begins launching into intimate stories as though we are destined to be friends. We speak briefly of his Peruvian upbringing and his birth in Lima, which undoubtedly influence his general outlook and being, though perhaps implicitly. At this point in time, Correa is becoming reacquainted with his heritage as he makes strides to become closer to his artist father and rekindles interest in ancient Peru. He speaks of his fascination with Machu Picchu and the likelihood that more people were artists in the ages before the internet; he recalls shamanic healing methods used by his grandmother, who raised him. All these certainly tie back in with Correa's general interests. Throughout our interview, he speaks tangentially of astrological patterns, making love to trees, and accidental experiences with astral projection. He may not be intimidating, but he’s certainly “out there” by traditional standards -- though that should certainly be the <em>least</em> one would expect from someone making hypercolored works as diabolically genius, contextually bizarre, and harnessing of “WTF”-ness as Correa.</div></div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn"><div class="IntroText-Spanish">Varios momentos dentro de nuestra conversación, Correa empieza a contar historias íntimas como si estuviéramos destinados a ser amigos. Hablamos brevemente de su crianza peruana y su nacimiento en Lima, los cuales sin duda ejercen influencia sobre la perspectivas de él, aunque sea de manera implícita. En estos momentos, Correa empieza a familiarizarse con su patrimonio una vez mas mientras hace esfuerzos para acercarse a su padre que también es artista y vuelve a retomar interés en el antiguo Perú. Habla de su fascinación con Machu Picchu y la posibilidad de que muchas mas personas eran artistas en los tiempos antes del internet; él recuerda métodos de sanación shamánica usados por su abuela, quien lo crió. Todas estas materias ciertamente están relacionadas con los intereses generales de Correa. A través de nuestra entrevista, él habla de manera tangente de patrones astrológicos, de hacerle el amor a los árboles y experiencias accidentales con la proyección astral. Puede que no sea un tipo intimidante, pero es ciertamente un tipo fuera de lo común de acuerdo a las normas tradicionales – pero esas cualidades, son ciertamente lo que menos se esperaría uno de alguien que crea trabajos hyperpigmentados, diabólicamente geniales y contextualmente bizarros como lo hace Correa.</div></div><div class="Clear"></div>

<div class="QuoteText">“I just kind of go and feel it out – what looks good, the chemistry, so that everything’s just kind of organic, spontaneous, in the moment." <strong>-- Frank Correa</strong>

“Simplemente llego y me guio por lo que siento – que es lo que se ve bien, la química, de esta manera todo es simplemente así como orgánico, espontáneo, de ese momento.” <strong>-- Frank Correa</strong></div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn">Prior to meeting him, I’d heard an anecdote through the grapevine about Correa’s process which seemed the makings of legend. He had recently been hired to shoot photos for the psychedelic band <strong><a href="/tag/midday-veil">Midday Veil</a></strong>, and though he took his time in composing the image, he only took one shot when it came time to click the shutter. Improbable as it seems, this is apparently a common practice for Correa, who rarely has anything planned beforehand.

“I just kind of go and feel it out – what looks good, the chemistry, so that everything’s just kind of organic, spontaneous, in the moment,” he explains.

The brunt of the work, then, lies in the aftermath of the initial shot.

“What takes the most time is editing, post-editing. That’s when I’m like, alright, it’s a whole new thing. It has nothing to do with photo shoot day, because what happens there then is just the backbone to what will happen,” he says. “With the rest, I fill up and add on and paint it and make it the way I want it. A lot of times, I never know what it’s going to look like until I get my film back, and then I work on it.”</div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn MainText-Spanish">Antes de conocerlo, escuché una anécdota sobre el proceso creativo de Correa, el cual pareciera ser el principio de una leyenda. Acababa de ser recientemente contratado para tomar fotografías de el conjunto psicodélico "<strong><a href="/tag/midday-veil">Midday Veil</a></strong>" y aunque se tomó su tiempo creando la composición de la imagen, cuando llegó la hora de apretar el botón de la cámara, tomó únicamente una foto. Tan raro  como pueda parecer, esta es una práctica común para Correa, quien raramente tiene las cosas planeadas antes de empezar a trabajar. 

Nos explica, “Simplemente llego y me guio por lo que siento – que es lo que se ve bien, la química, de esta manera todo es simplemente así como orgánico, espontáneo, de ese momento.” 

Es así que la mayoría de la obra, se basa sobre el resultado de la toma inicial. 

“Lo que toma mas tiempo es la edición. Es ahí cuando me doy cuenta de que es toda una obra nueva. No tiene nada que ver con el día de la sesión de fotos porque lo que pasó ahí es simplemente el esqueleto de lo que va a ser,” nos dice. “Con el resto, lleno, agrego, lo pinto y lo convierto en lo que quiero. Muchas veces, nunca sé como se va a ver hasta que me regresan el último negativo y me pongo a trabajar en él."</div><div class="Clear"></div>
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<small>FRANK CORREA PHOTOGRAPHER INTERVIEW CONTINUES BELOW</small>
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<div class="Preview-TwoColumn">Correa shoots using an array of crappy ‘90s film cameras that are constantly being swapped out for “new” but equally crappy ones. These tools seem chosen not in a calculated Polaroid hipness kind of way, but in a “this works just fine”, tried-and-true kind of way. A bit of chance also brought the medium to his attention.

“I actually started with digital – but I didn’t like the idea of taking all of these photos and breaking your head with which one you like better. And I didn’t like the look of it [back then]… One time, the camera kind of started fucking up, and luckily, I had a disposable camera,” recalls Correa.

Those circumstances led him to the discovery that he liked the look of film better than digital; and with affordable film processing at Walgreen’s, disposable cameras proved themselves to be a cheap and efficient tools.

“I could just get three and snap around, whatever… I liked the process and how easy it was,” he shares.

Correa opens up Photoshop to give me a sneak peak into the barebones components of his process – something he assures me he almost never shows to anyone. I am instantly amazed by the extent to which the original differs from the final product. The initial photo is hardly fancy or flattering at all; it is merely the canvas for more robust work of the imagination. Correa’s photos are also digital collages manipulated to the nth degree, into which he mixes an array of supplementary images. He shoots photos on his iPhone, pulls stock photography off the internet, and scans images from books and magazines – whatever is necessary to create his off-kilter worlds of fantasy.

But what is most immediately gripping about Correa’s work, and most vital to his embrace of the digital medium, is his bold use of colors. Bright neons manipulate and deform pixels, sharpen edges in uncanny ways, and add fascinating degrees of hardness into a world of soft humans. Nonetheless, it is ultimately the humans – adventurous ones who are willing to serve in Correa’s world – that really makes the pieces pop.

“I guess I’m lucky, because I have friends that are just down… people, friends, who are willing to do anything,” explains Correa.</div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn MainText-Spanish">Correa fotografía utilizando una variedad de cámaras de rollo fotográficos de los '90s que constantemente están siendo cambiadas por  cámaras “nuevas” pero igual de mediocres. Estas herramientas parecen haber sido escogidas no a propósito como cuando se usa Polaroid porque esta de moda si no porque “simplemente funciona” y esto es un hecho comprobado. También, un poco de suerte le hizo poner atención a este medio.

“En realidad empecé digital – pero no me gustaba la idea de tomar todas estas fotografías y después romperte la cabeza para ver cual te gusta más. Y no me gustaba como se veía [en ese entonces]… Un día, la cámara empezó a no querer trabajar, y por suerte, yo traía una cámara desechable,” se acuerda Correa.

Fueron esas circunstancias las que lo llevaron a descubrir que le gustaba más como se veía el rollo fotográfico que lo digital, y con revelado de negativos a precios razonables en Walgreen’s, las cámaras desechables probaron ser una herramienta baratas y efectivas.

“Yo podía llegar y simplemente tomar fotos, lo que fuera… me gustó el proceso y lo fácil que es.” 

Correa abre Photoshop para darme un anticipo de los elementos básicos de su proceso – algo que me asegura casi nunca le muestra a nadie. Inmediatamente, me encuentro asombrada por lo mucho que la copia original es diferente al producto final. La foto inicial es corta de ser sofisticada o halagadora; es simplemente el lienzo para una obra mas robusta de la imaginación. Las fotografías de Correa son también un collage digital manipulado al máximo, dentro de las cuales combina una variedad de imágenes suplementales. Él toma fotos en su iPhone, saca fotos ya existentes del internet, y escanea imagines de libros y revistas – lo que sea necesario para crear sus mundos de fantasía fuera de lo común.

Pero lo que inmediatamente llama la atención sobre el trabajo de correa, y lo mas vital sobre su acogida al medio digital, es su atrevido uso de colores. Neones brillantes manipulan y deforman pixeles, incrementan los bordes de las imágenes de manera sorprendente, y agregan altos niveles de aspereza en un mundo de humanos suaves. Sin embargo, a final de cuentas son los humanos – aventureros que están dispuestos a servir en el mundo de Correa – quienes realmente hacen que la imagen se destaque. 

“Supongo que tengo suerte porque tengo amigos que se prestan a este tipo de trabajo… gente, amigos que están dispuestos a hacer lo que sea,” explica Correa.</div><div class="Clear"></div>
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<small>FRANK CORREA PHOTOGRAPHER INTERVIEW CONTINUES BELOW</small>
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<div class="QuoteText">"I want more emotion. I want to make it more cinematographic, if that even applies on this. Just more feeling." <strong>- Frank Correa</strong>

"Quiero mas emoción. Quiero que sea mas cinematográfico, si se puede. Quiero mas sentimiento." <strong>- Frank Correa</strong></div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn">This willingness to be a part of the art extends to nudity in large but tasteful degree, as well as poses and positions that create striking visual forms. Correa’s models are like dancers caught in still frames, as they tumble in upside-down and contorted positions, hold still in yogic forms, and seem to be suspended in various stages of animation. Very little of it is what you would find in traditional portraiture.

“[The poses] just kind of come to me, but I always tell myself as I get my photos back at this point that I feel like I want to start telling people to give me more drama and not just stand there in a pose. I want more emotion,” he explains. “I want to make it more cinematographic, if that even applies on this. Just more feeling.”

Correa’s photography is getting more and more attention, and he is becoming known for his definitive style – but he wants to push himself to do different things. He fantasizes about doing underwater shots, or even traversing the world of skydiving if it would yield a worthwhile photographic result. In the meantime, he is working on a new series of work that will come with a whole new style.

“I am in a weird stage [right now] because people know me for what they’ve seen, but there’s actually so much that hasn’t been out yet that I’m actually working on and am excited about,” Correa explains. He parallels the slow process of showing his work to that of recording music. “You record a rock song, and it doesn’t come out until a year later after it’s gone through all this shit, and it’s kind of annoying, because I’m already over this, but it hasn’t seen the light of day yet.”

To the outside and casual observer, it may be difficult to tell what has changed in Correa’s new series of works, for they still adhere to many of the same basic color palettes and conceptual principles as before. It is only when the new and the old are compared side-by-side that one begins to see the increased focus on composition and more challenging use of angles and forms in the new batch. But what is even more important than visual clues is Correa’s evolution in understanding and accepting his own vision. As he sounds off about his recent revelations and philosophical changes, I come back to square one of our meeting, for his defenses are down, and it is striking how earnest and particular he is about his goals. 

“Now, I know what [my photos] are rather than, ‘I don’t know what I’m doing; I’m just doing what looks good.’ I know what I want,” Correa says, of his past year of growth. “I’ve always been producing, exercising, and I feel like I went through my exercise phase – but [now]… I feel like people recognize it more and I spend more time, more care, more love. They’re like my babies. Before it was all fun and games, whatever, photo shoots. But now I’m serious, in the best way.”</div>

<div class="Preview-TwoColumn MainText-Spanish">Esta disponibilidad para ser parte de una obra de arte, se expande a la desnudez en un nivel alto pero de buen gusto, así como también poses y posiciones que crean formas visuales sorprendentes. Los modelos de Correa son como bailarines capturados en el momento, cayendo de cabeza a media voltereta y en posiciones contorsionadas, inertes en posiciones de yoga, y pareciera que estuviesen suspendidos en varios niveles de animación. Es muy poco de esto lo que uno se encontraría en un retrato tradicional.

“[La pose] simplemente me llega, pero siempre me digo a mi mismo que a este punto siento que quiero empezar a pedirle a los modelos que me dan mas drama y que no solo estén ahí parados. Quiero mas emoción,” él nos explica. “Quiero que sea mas cinematográfico, si se puede. Quiero mas sentimiento.” 

Las fotografías de Correa están empezando a recibir mas y mas atención, y esta llegando a ser conocido por su estilo absoluto – pero quiere esforzarse a hacer cosas diferentes. Tiene fantasías de hacer tomas bajo el agua, o incluso cruzar dentro del mundo de paracaidismo si esto significaría producir un resultado fotográfico que valga la pena. Mientras tanto, él está trabajando en  una nueva serie de obras que tendrán un estilo completamente nuevo. 

“Me encuentro en un periodo raro [en estos momentos] porque la gente me conoce por lo que han visto, pero en realidad hay todavía tanto que no ha salido aún, en el que estoy trabajando y por el cual estoy emocionado,” Correa explica. Hace paralelos entre el lento proceso de mostrar su trabajo a el de grabar música. “Cuando grabas una canción de rock, y no sale al público sino hasta después de un año y habiendo pasado por mucho, es un poco molesto porque ya has perdido interés y tu trabajo ni si quiera ha visto la luz del día aún.”

Al observador casual y ajeno, se le podría hacer difícil reconocer qué es lo que ha cambiado en la nueva serie de obras de Correa, porque continúan adhiriéndose a muchas de las mismas paletas básicas de colores y principios conceptuales que anteriormente. Es solamente cuando lo nuevo y lo viejo son comparados lado a lado que uno empieza a ver el enfoque incrementado en la composición y el uso más desafiante de ángulos y formas en la nueva serie. Pero lo que es aún mas importante que las pistas visuales, es la evolución de Correa en el entendimiento y aceptación de su propia visión. Mientras continua hablando de sus recientes revelaciones y cambios filosóficos, regreso al principio de nuestra entrevista, él ha bajado la guardia y es admirable lo serio y particular que es sobre sus objetivos. 

“Ahora, sé lo que son [mis fotos] en lugar de ‘no se lo que estoy haciendo, solo se que se ve bien.’ Sé que es lo que quiero,” nos dice Correa sobre el pasado año de crecimiento. “Siempre he estado produciendo, practicando, y siento que pase por mi etapa de práctica – pero [ahora]… siento que la gente lo reconoce mas y le pongo mas tiempo, mas cuidado, mas amor. Son como mis bebés. Antes, todo era diversión y juegos, sesiones de foto de lo que fuera. Pero ahora, soy mas serio, de la mejor manera posible.” </div><div class="Clear"></div>

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		<title>Saya Woolfalk Artist Interview: The Possibility Of All Kinds Of Mixing</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2013/saya-woolfalk-artist-interview-installation-painting-performance-video/"><strong>Saya Woolfalk Artist Interview</strong>: The Possibility Of All Kinds Of Mixing</a></p><p><p><img width="780" height="826" src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2013_Saya-Woolfalk-Interview-02.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="Saya Woolfalk Artist Interview" /></p><a href="/2013/saya-woolfalk-artist-interview-installation-painting-performance-video"><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2013_Saya-Woolfalk-Interview-00-b.jpg" class="aligncenter" /></a>

<div class="IntroText">To experience Saya Woolfalk's work is to become immersed in a scientific folklore where biology and anthropology inform fables of utopia. In Greek, "utopia" translates literally as "no" (ou) and "place" (topos), and in a collaborative series with anthropologist Rachel Lears, entitled <em>No Place</em>, Woolfalk posits ways in which "no placeians" can more readily become a part of a utopian society.

In her most recent development upon this theme, Woolfalk has incorporated a new element -- that of dual consciousness and foreign beings, via the narrative of a fictional species called Empathics. Through the use of psychedelically-colored exhibits, scientific slide shows, dance performances, and a very multi-disciplinary artistic practice, Woolfalk is learning how to use art shows to create utopian worlds in and of themselves.</div>

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When one enters 3rd Streaming in New York City to witness Woolfalk's current show, <em>Chimera</em>, one is immediately drawn to mannequins wearing felted costumes and floating on brightly-painted, patterned murals. These are Empathics, a new and fictional species in Woolfalk's work, who contain genetic elements of both plants and humans. Their existence is a sci-fi-inspired commentary that speaks to many things -- including the transformation of identities through biological hybridization -- but the more important underlying vision is that of increased unity across all forms of existence. To express this singular vision through craft, Woolfalk utilizes an impressive array of mediums; murals and installations are supplemented by huge, full-color lithographs of Empathics in their costumes, as well as paintings created "by them" and displays of objects used in their fictional rituals.

Folkloric and scientific, fable-driven and meticulously chronicled, Woolfalk's exhibits also show her as both participant and narrator. In her videos, Woolfalk narrates as a scientist, with the resolute calm found in any biology film. But her work deviates from the usual script in that the scientists describe a transformation they themselves undergo. Woolfalk and "other scientists" find evidence of Empathics in the wilderness of Upstate New York, and through exposure to their bones and spores, decide to undergo a series of changes that will lead them towards becoming chimeras themselves. Over the twinkle of atmospheric music, animations break down the ways in which spores enter the human body -- but one soon finds that this is not only a biological transformation; it is also mystical. The scientists enter a ritual of guided dream therapy to learn how to embody their new state of plant-human consciousness, and through the introduction of a performance art element, the transformed beings emerge from behind the wall where the video is being projected, donning costumes that are on display.

The merging of a complete physical and digital reality is what Woolfalk says makes her utopian-driven work "real". "When you come in[to the gallery], I want you to be in a world -- but it's our world," she explains.

The world within the exhibit also reacts to the world outside the exhibit. Mythology dictates that Empathics create beautiful headdresses to disguise a second head which sprouts as part of their shift to dual consciousness, and such guises helps keep things from getting awkward in public or at their jobs. They also literally sell their skins; magical costumes they shed during the process help bring in extra income for their research. Regarding this very intentional detail, Woolfalk laughs and describes living in Brazil and studying folkloric performance, where "people are engaging in fantastic stories about struggle... and simultaneously selling trinkets because they need them... they actually help pay the bills."

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<small>SAYA WOOLFALK ARTIST INTERVIEW CONTINUES BELOW</small>
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Woolfalk's work is "becoming more of a fable" as it progresses, acting as a fantastical other reality that reflects the artist's real-life external influences. The creation of Empathics, for example, was first inspired by the works of feminist science fiction author Octavia Butler, who discussed the idea of plant-human utopia. 

"Originally, it was about physical action and ritual that would make [a] new place," explains Woolfalk. But when conceptualizing what this transformation process would look like, Woolfalk began speaking to biologists at Tufts. Through discussions of the natural world, she began to "rethink physical adaptation and metamorphosis".

"It's not just that humans can just act on their environment and become whatever they chose to; the places that they are, the things that they encounter cause micro-transformations," Woolfalk continues.

Such a statement is more than just environmental or a comment on slow changes through intuitive guidance. Woolfalk seeks to "break down categorization -- not just human, animal, or interracial, but also intercultural or interbiological." She welcomes "the possibility of all kinds of mixing", and notes that her next iteration upon this theme "is the idea of consciousness between humans and technology." 

As Woolfalk continues to develop as an artist, she is not only incorporating the influence of anthropologists and science fiction writers, or folklore and biology. She is also growing to incorporate her audience as part of the exhibits. For her, "Audience has become part of the structure and circuit. I consider how their experiencing what I'm doing in order to feed it back more clearly."

Woolfalk's multi-faceted works all shrink down to a very natural process of evolution -- one that welcomes the inclusive mixture of many ideas and techniques. Though each of Woolfalk's works is fully-conceptualized prior to its creation, its final product is ultimately unpredictable, subject to flux as her ideas morph through what she consumes and how her mind processes. Each piece is "changing and emerging as it's restructured by the logics I've been thinking about," she explains. "[It is natural] to work in two dimensions -- then three dimensions, then four dimensions... There's a porous relationship between the pieces. It's an organic process between logic and intuition."

<div class="IntroText">Come catch the last days of Woolfalk's exhibits and your chance to feedback into collective consciousnesses.

<strong><a href="http://thirdstreaming.com/calendar/56-saya-woolfalk-_chimera_" target="new"><em>Chimera</em> at 3rd Streaming in NYC</a></strong>
<em>Chimera</em> runs through April 25th, 2013. A talk entitled "Brave New Land: Science Fiction in Contemporary Art" will take place on Wednesday, April 24th, 2013, featuring Saya Woolfalk, Chitra Ganesh, and Simone Leigh. Doors at 6:00; Discussion promptly at 6:30.

<strong><a href="http://www.disjecta.org" target="new"><em>Space Is The Place</em> @ Disjecta in Portland, Oregon</a></strong>
The group show, featuring works by Saya Woolfalk, Wendy Red Star, Guillermo Gómez-Peña, and David Huffman, will end on April 27th, 2013. Admission is free, and Disjecta is open Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays.</div>

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<div class="IntroText">To experience Saya Woolfalk's work is to become immersed in a scientific folklore where biology and anthropology inform fables of utopia. In Greek, "utopia" translates literally as "no" (ou) and "place" (topos), and in a collaborative series with anthropologist Rachel Lears, entitled <em>No Place</em>, Woolfalk posits ways in which "no placeians" can more readily become a part of a utopian society.

In her most recent development upon this theme, Woolfalk has incorporated a new element -- that of dual consciousness and foreign beings, via the narrative of a fictional species called Empathics. Through the use of psychedelically-colored exhibits, scientific slide shows, dance performances, and a very multi-disciplinary artistic practice, Woolfalk is learning how to use art shows to create utopian worlds in and of themselves.</div>

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When one enters 3rd Streaming in New York City to witness Woolfalk's current show, <em>Chimera</em>, one is immediately drawn to mannequins wearing felted costumes and floating on brightly-painted, patterned murals. These are Empathics, a new and fictional species in Woolfalk's work, who contain genetic elements of both plants and humans. Their existence is a sci-fi-inspired commentary that speaks to many things -- including the transformation of identities through biological hybridization -- but the more important underlying vision is that of increased unity across all forms of existence. To express this singular vision through craft, Woolfalk utilizes an impressive array of mediums; murals and installations are supplemented by huge, full-color lithographs of Empathics in their costumes, as well as paintings created "by them" and displays of objects used in their fictional rituals.

Folkloric and scientific, fable-driven and meticulously chronicled, Woolfalk's exhibits also show her as both participant and narrator. In her videos, Woolfalk narrates as a scientist, with the resolute calm found in any biology film. But her work deviates from the usual script in that the scientists describe a transformation they themselves undergo. Woolfalk and "other scientists" find evidence of Empathics in the wilderness of Upstate New York, and through exposure to their bones and spores, decide to undergo a series of changes that will lead them towards becoming chimeras themselves. Over the twinkle of atmospheric music, animations break down the ways in which spores enter the human body -- but one soon finds that this is not only a biological transformation; it is also mystical. The scientists enter a ritual of guided dream therapy to learn how to embody their new state of plant-human consciousness, and through the introduction of a performance art element, the transformed beings emerge from behind the wall where the video is being projected, donning costumes that are on display.

The merging of a complete physical and digital reality is what Woolfalk says makes her utopian-driven work "real". "When you come in[to the gallery], I want you to be in a world -- but it's our world," she explains.

The world within the exhibit also reacts to the world outside the exhibit. Mythology dictates that Empathics create beautiful headdresses to disguise a second head which sprouts as part of their shift to dual consciousness, and such guises helps keep things from getting awkward in public or at their jobs. They also literally sell their skins; magical costumes they shed during the process help bring in extra income for their research. Regarding this very intentional detail, Woolfalk laughs and describes living in Brazil and studying folkloric performance, where "people are engaging in fantastic stories about struggle... and simultaneously selling trinkets because they need them... they actually help pay the bills."

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Woolfalk's work is "becoming more of a fable" as it progresses, acting as a fantastical other reality that reflects the artist's real-life external influences. The creation of Empathics, for example, was first inspired by the works of feminist science fiction author Octavia Butler, who discussed the idea of plant-human utopia. 

"Originally, it was about physical action and ritual that would make [a] new place," explains Woolfalk. But when conceptualizing what this transformation process would look like, Woolfalk began speaking to biologists at Tufts. Through discussions of the natural world, she began to "rethink physical adaptation and metamorphosis".

"It's not just that humans can just act on their environment and become whatever they chose to; the places that they are, the things that they encounter cause micro-transformations," Woolfalk continues.

Such a statement is more than just environmental or a comment on slow changes through intuitive guidance. Woolfalk seeks to "break down categorization -- not just human, animal, or interracial, but also intercultural or interbiological." She welcomes "the possibility of all kinds of mixing", and notes that her next iteration upon this theme "is the idea of consciousness between humans and technology." 

As Woolfalk continues to develop as an artist, she is not only incorporating the influence of anthropologists and science fiction writers, or folklore and biology. She is also growing to incorporate her audience as part of the exhibits. For her, "Audience has become part of the structure and circuit. I consider how their experiencing what I'm doing in order to feed it back more clearly."

Woolfalk's multi-faceted works all shrink down to a very natural process of evolution -- one that welcomes the inclusive mixture of many ideas and techniques. Though each of Woolfalk's works is fully-conceptualized prior to its creation, its final product is ultimately unpredictable, subject to flux as her ideas morph through what she consumes and how her mind processes. Each piece is "changing and emerging as it's restructured by the logics I've been thinking about," she explains. "[It is natural] to work in two dimensions -- then three dimensions, then four dimensions... There's a porous relationship between the pieces. It's an organic process between logic and intuition."

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<strong><a href="http://thirdstreaming.com/calendar/56-saya-woolfalk-_chimera_" target="new"><em>Chimera</em> at 3rd Streaming in NYC</a></strong>
<em>Chimera</em> runs through April 25th, 2013. A talk entitled "Brave New Land: Science Fiction in Contemporary Art" will take place on Wednesday, April 24th, 2013, featuring Saya Woolfalk, Chitra Ganesh, and Simone Leigh. Doors at 6:00; Discussion promptly at 6:30.

<strong><a href="http://www.disjecta.org" target="new"><em>Space Is The Place</em> @ Disjecta in Portland, Oregon</a></strong>
The group show, featuring works by Saya Woolfalk, Wendy Red Star, Guillermo Gómez-Peña, and David Huffman, will end on April 27th, 2013. Admission is free, and Disjecta is open Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays.</div>

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<div class="IntroText">Whether it's a symptom of repressive cultural conditions or a question of derivative creativity, nudity in art causes a ruckus. Rashly criticized as an easy way to draw attention to one's art or an exhibitionist ploy for attention, bare bodies are often a point of contention for both critics and viewers alike.  The fine line between artistry and exploitative eroticism is often a blurry one.  Ultimately, the intentions of the artist and the emotional subtleties communicated by the work itself determine its merit or lack there of. 

In the case of 23-year old Amanda Charchian's photography, revelation is the goal.  It is a desire to construct timelessness that inspires her to photograph nudes. She favors skin over clothes because of its raw honesty, the removal of clothing a path to seeing ourselves in our purest most vulnerable forms.</div>
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<div class="QuoteText">"I appear defiant because I have something to rebel against, something to be resistant to.  Every artist I admire has something to say, to instigate, a passion to ignite." <strong>-- Amanda Charchian</strong></div><p>&nbsp;</p><span id="more-25884"></span>
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To Charchian, those who criticize the use of nudity in art for its overused "shock" factor are failing in their analysis. "People have the inability to appreciate the subtle differences between artistic nuances," she says.  "How could anyone pass our purist physical state- something you can't pretend doesn't exist - as 'unnecessary' or 'overdone'?"

Intentionally or not, stripping the human body often presents it as something exclusively erotic, limiting it as an object of desire and a vehicle for pleasure. Nudity and eroticism are commonly joined conceptually, but Charchian cleverly asserts that clothing is often the culprit in over-sexed societies.

"If clothing truly controlled lust and other 'sinful' inclinations surrounding nudity," shequestions, "would we be such a sex-crazed society? In my travels to countries like Egypt and India where women are the MOST covered, the men are also the most hostile and aggressive with their eyes.  It is pretty basic psychology that restriction creates desire."

Repression has long been considered a catalyst for desire. The inability to separate nudity from eroticism is symptomatic of societal brainwashing and forced out of likely arbitrary, social, or religious mores.  "When you specifically are told you can't have something, you want it more," Charchian explains. "In a culturally conditioned and ultimately stunted state, one cannot separate eroticism and nudity.  But in my perception of nudity through the lens of a naturist, there doesn't always have to be a sexual tension."

"To say that these [nudity and eroticism] always go hand-in-hand would be to ignore individual sexual idiosyncrasies or fetishes," Charchian continues. "Some people find a lot of eroticism in the fully-clothed.  Sexuality is a complicated part of our existence, and that is why it is fascinating to me."

As stated on her website, Charchian is an investigator of "the state of alienation through realms of the physical, psycho-social, and spiritual human condition." Although it is not her specific intent to be provocative, Charchian is a rebellious insurgent within a constrictive culture, battling for openness in an otherwise restrictive society.  She says "'YES' in a world of No." With art as her agent, she is, by default, a kind of creative hellion.

"I appear defiant because I have something to rebel against, something to be resistant to.  Every artist I admire has something to say, to instigate, a passion to ignite."  Charchian, does not, however, take her freedom of expression for granted. Her parents escaped an oppressive Islamic regime in Iran, which affected her massively. It is perhaps the reason for the amount of "deep celebration of female freedom and sensuality" she conveys within her work.  "That wouldn't be possible if I lived in Iran," she says. 

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"YES" has become more than just a word for Charchian; it is a way of life. Appearing in her work both physically and symbolically, these three letters represent an ideology that fosters positive energy and the overwhelming power that comes with it. "'YES' is a mantra," she states. "It is a word, but somehow it is beyond a word.  It transcends its own meaning. For example, when our brain hears the word 'NO', our survival instincts, stress responses and heart rate increase immediately.  But when the brain hears the word 'YES', absolutely nothing happens.  It is a very spiritual word."  

Her piece <em>eYES</em>, for example, is a meticulously-assembled sculpture of the letters Y-E-S made, from Swarovski Spectra crystals and nickel-plated steel. The healing nature of the materials and the profundity of the message are a testament to Charchian's affection for nature and her interest in mysticism. Citing the "historical and philosophical interplay between surrealism and occultism" as one of her influences, Charchian composes imaginative images that are undeniably mythical. A photograph from the series entitled <em>Sworn In Swarkestone</em> depicts a woman wearing a glorious black cape that spreads like the wings of bat; she stands with her eyes closed towards the heavens, in front of a mysterious faded stone building. The scene is ethereal and preternatural and indeed evokes a kind of pagan charm reminiscent of the occult. 

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Utilizing almost exclusively analog cameras, she believes that "film captures the energy that is emitted from organic matter better than digital does." There is something about those lustrous silver oxide bits that is pure magic.  Film is tangible and therefore more natural. "Perhaps it is because it is a physical object that takes up space," she hypothesizes. "It can record another physical object better."

Taking this idea even further, Charchian also keeps a number of "magical items" inside of her camera bag. It is an ephemeral collection of creative aids that are ever-present and always evolving.  Some items she keeps handy include prisms, crystals, glitter sticks, expired film, fresh flowers, and vintage track filters.  "It is always changing depending on what I have found along the way," she explains.

Creative tools in hand, her process as an artist involves translating pervading ideas into concrete projects. Channeling this spiritual inspiration, she is more of an instrument than an architect: "My strongest works were ones that appeared to me as a fully formed vision that seemed impossible.  The planning part comes from trying to manifest that otherworldly flash on the psychical plane without losing the divine nature of the original inspiration.  Sometimes an idea haunts me literally every five minutes until I make it happen.  It's like being on the verge of orgasm for a very prolonged amount of time."

Harnessing ideas and following them through to actualization is a means of transferring what comes from the subconscious realm into objects as works of art. Where photography is concerned, it is a way to capture a very distinct moment and cement it in time. However, Charchian does not shoot photos to remember things; she shoots to create an entirely independent event -- a new memory.  The shutter of a camera captures only an instant revealing what is not cognitively perceivable by the human eye.

"When you freeze time for an image, it extends beyond time, thus making it timeless," she says. Within a circular time perspective, this frozen moment is a way to make that moment last forever.  It creates a sort of temporal infinity. It does, indeed, become timeless.

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<div class="IntroText">Whether it's a symptom of repressive cultural conditions or a question of derivative creativity, nudity in art causes a ruckus. Rashly criticized as an easy way to draw attention to one's art or an exhibitionist ploy for attention, bare bodies are often a point of contention for both critics and viewers alike.  The fine line between artistry and exploitative eroticism is often a blurry one.  Ultimately, the intentions of the artist and the emotional subtleties communicated by the work itself determine its merit or lack there of. 

In the case of 23-year old Amanda Charchian's photography, revelation is the goal.  It is a desire to construct timelessness that inspires her to photograph nudes. She favors skin over clothes because of its raw honesty, the removal of clothing a path to seeing ourselves in our purest most vulnerable forms.</div>
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<div class="QuoteText">"I appear defiant because I have something to rebel against, something to be resistant to.  Every artist I admire has something to say, to instigate, a passion to ignite." <strong>-- Amanda Charchian</strong></div><p>&nbsp;</p><span id="more-25884"></span>
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To Charchian, those who criticize the use of nudity in art for its overused "shock" factor are failing in their analysis. "People have the inability to appreciate the subtle differences between artistic nuances," she says.  "How could anyone pass our purist physical state- something you can't pretend doesn't exist - as 'unnecessary' or 'overdone'?"

Intentionally or not, stripping the human body often presents it as something exclusively erotic, limiting it as an object of desire and a vehicle for pleasure. Nudity and eroticism are commonly joined conceptually, but Charchian cleverly asserts that clothing is often the culprit in over-sexed societies.

"If clothing truly controlled lust and other 'sinful' inclinations surrounding nudity," shequestions, "would we be such a sex-crazed society? In my travels to countries like Egypt and India where women are the MOST covered, the men are also the most hostile and aggressive with their eyes.  It is pretty basic psychology that restriction creates desire."

Repression has long been considered a catalyst for desire. The inability to separate nudity from eroticism is symptomatic of societal brainwashing and forced out of likely arbitrary, social, or religious mores.  "When you specifically are told you can't have something, you want it more," Charchian explains. "In a culturally conditioned and ultimately stunted state, one cannot separate eroticism and nudity.  But in my perception of nudity through the lens of a naturist, there doesn't always have to be a sexual tension."

"To say that these [nudity and eroticism] always go hand-in-hand would be to ignore individual sexual idiosyncrasies or fetishes," Charchian continues. "Some people find a lot of eroticism in the fully-clothed.  Sexuality is a complicated part of our existence, and that is why it is fascinating to me."

As stated on her website, Charchian is an investigator of "the state of alienation through realms of the physical, psycho-social, and spiritual human condition." Although it is not her specific intent to be provocative, Charchian is a rebellious insurgent within a constrictive culture, battling for openness in an otherwise restrictive society.  She says "'YES' in a world of No." With art as her agent, she is, by default, a kind of creative hellion.

"I appear defiant because I have something to rebel against, something to be resistant to.  Every artist I admire has something to say, to instigate, a passion to ignite."  Charchian, does not, however, take her freedom of expression for granted. Her parents escaped an oppressive Islamic regime in Iran, which affected her massively. It is perhaps the reason for the amount of "deep celebration of female freedom and sensuality" she conveys within her work.  "That wouldn't be possible if I lived in Iran," she says. 

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<small>Amanda Charchian Artist Interview Continues Below</small>
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"YES" has become more than just a word for Charchian; it is a way of life. Appearing in her work both physically and symbolically, these three letters represent an ideology that fosters positive energy and the overwhelming power that comes with it. "'YES' is a mantra," she states. "It is a word, but somehow it is beyond a word.  It transcends its own meaning. For example, when our brain hears the word 'NO', our survival instincts, stress responses and heart rate increase immediately.  But when the brain hears the word 'YES', absolutely nothing happens.  It is a very spiritual word."  

Her piece <em>eYES</em>, for example, is a meticulously-assembled sculpture of the letters Y-E-S made, from Swarovski Spectra crystals and nickel-plated steel. The healing nature of the materials and the profundity of the message are a testament to Charchian's affection for nature and her interest in mysticism. Citing the "historical and philosophical interplay between surrealism and occultism" as one of her influences, Charchian composes imaginative images that are undeniably mythical. A photograph from the series entitled <em>Sworn In Swarkestone</em> depicts a woman wearing a glorious black cape that spreads like the wings of bat; she stands with her eyes closed towards the heavens, in front of a mysterious faded stone building. The scene is ethereal and preternatural and indeed evokes a kind of pagan charm reminiscent of the occult. 

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<small>AMANDA CHARCHIAN ARTIST INTERVIEW CONTINUES BELOW</small>
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Utilizing almost exclusively analog cameras, she believes that "film captures the energy that is emitted from organic matter better than digital does." There is something about those lustrous silver oxide bits that is pure magic.  Film is tangible and therefore more natural. "Perhaps it is because it is a physical object that takes up space," she hypothesizes. "It can record another physical object better."

Taking this idea even further, Charchian also keeps a number of "magical items" inside of her camera bag. It is an ephemeral collection of creative aids that are ever-present and always evolving.  Some items she keeps handy include prisms, crystals, glitter sticks, expired film, fresh flowers, and vintage track filters.  "It is always changing depending on what I have found along the way," she explains.

Creative tools in hand, her process as an artist involves translating pervading ideas into concrete projects. Channeling this spiritual inspiration, she is more of an instrument than an architect: "My strongest works were ones that appeared to me as a fully formed vision that seemed impossible.  The planning part comes from trying to manifest that otherworldly flash on the psychical plane without losing the divine nature of the original inspiration.  Sometimes an idea haunts me literally every five minutes until I make it happen.  It's like being on the verge of orgasm for a very prolonged amount of time."

Harnessing ideas and following them through to actualization is a means of transferring what comes from the subconscious realm into objects as works of art. Where photography is concerned, it is a way to capture a very distinct moment and cement it in time. However, Charchian does not shoot photos to remember things; she shoots to create an entirely independent event -- a new memory.  The shutter of a camera captures only an instant revealing what is not cognitively perceivable by the human eye.

"When you freeze time for an image, it extends beyond time, thus making it timeless," she says. Within a circular time perspective, this frozen moment is a way to make that moment last forever.  It creates a sort of temporal infinity. It does, indeed, become timeless.

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		<description><![CDATA[<p><p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2013/dana-popa-not-natasha-sex-trafficking-photography/"><strong>Dana Popa Artist Interview</strong>: Uncovering The Intimate Details of Sex Trafficking</a></p><p><p><img width="754" height="501" src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-11.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="2013_Dana-Popa-11" /></p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2013/dana-popa-not-natasha-sex-trafficking-photography/"><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_V-Day.png" class="aligncenter" /></a>
<div class="IntroText">February 14th is known to many -- whether they are coupled or single, in love or without it -- as a day for amorous celebration, through intimate experiences and the exchange of roses, chocolates, and kisses. But beyond the major consumer holiday of Valentine's Day lies a global activist movement of a similar name, called <strong><a href=http://www.vday.org target="new">V-Day</a></strong>. Violence against women and girls can take many forms, and V-Day draws special attention to rape, battery, incest, female genital mutilation, and sex slavery through a worldwide network of regionally-supported performances, documentaries, plays, rallys, and a variety of other events.</div>
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<div class="IntroText">To call attention to this cause in our own way, we have decided to use the delicate work of Romanian and United Kingdom photographer <strong><a href=http://www.danapopa.com target="new">Dana Popa</a></strong> as a foundational point. After learning of the horrible realities of the sex trafficking trade, Popa set about to unveil the stories of its former victims, all of whom were around seventeen years of age and in various stages of recovery when Popa met them. The result of Popa's genuine quest was a piercing series called <em>not Natasha</em>, “Natasha" being the generic name given to Eastern European sex slaves.

Many series about sensitive topics shock one into sympathy. Not so with <em>not Natasha</em>; its images are often profound in the most mundane of ways, focusing not only on the women themselves but on the things that they leave behind -- while, in Popa's own words, capturing "a glimpse of their souls". It is beyond the photos themselves where the heart-breaking tales often lie, in the form of deception and betrayal from former lovers, neighbors, and friends, and of societies that allow women to be sacrificed to patterns of abuse and pain. 

In the full Q&A interview to follow, Popa recounts incredible stories -- some of which are difficult to believe -- while motivating us with powerful imagery. For more details on how you can be involved in V-Day events, please <strong><a href="http://www.vday.org" target="new">visit their website</a></strong>, or see more of Popa's work on <strong><a href=http://www.danapopa.com target="new">her website</a></strong>.</div>
<small>(17 IMAGES TOTAL)</small>

<a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2013/dana-popa-not-natasha-sex-trafficking-photography/"><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-02.jpg" class="alignright"></a><div class="QuoteText">"This work is dedicated to Dalia and all the girls who allowed me to have a glimpse of their souls and dig up a hidden, painful past. I hope I did it in the most delicate way."</div>
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<span class="InterviewQ">What circumstances led you to the not Natasha project?</span>

What triggered my work was purely finding out what sex trafficking really means.

At the time, there was not much visual coverage of the illegal trade. Sex trafficking is the most profitable illegal business since the 1989 fall of the Soviet Union; it's a form of violence against women from my society. Little do people realise what this illegal trade is and how big and profitable it has become. So I decided to try and get a closer look at sex trafficking and record what it means for the women to survive sexual slavery. I chose to have a glimpse of their souls -- which at the time seemed very difficult to do, but that is what I was most interested in. After having heard their stories, I wanted to look at their traces -- at what women who had disappeared for years and who are believed to be trafficked and sexually enslaved leave behind. This became essential angle and part of the narrative. 

After being involved with this project I realised that its beginnings might have been triggered by my interest and knowledge of the woman's position in societies like the one I was born in. I acknowledge this story as a way of standing up against the societies that know what happens to their women and hide it without even doing anything about it.

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<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-05.jpg" class="alignright" /><div class="QuoteText">"Natasha is a nickname given to prostitutes with Eastern European looks."</div><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="InterviewQ">It must have been difficult to deal with such a delicate situation. Did you have training in communicating with these woman or face any difficulty? What were some solutions that you employed, and do you have any advice for those who are hoping to speak with a woman who has undergone sexual trauma?</span>

The most pleasant part of the learning process was when I spent time at one of the shelters that offered them psychological assistance and accommodation for a month or so. I had spent two weeks with girls that just escaped sexual slavery. They were spinning stories about their ordeals every evening. This is what actually helped me frame the story and urged me to continue it at a later stage. The women accepted me in their lives, some for three weeks, some only for a few hours, depending where I'd meet them. They all understood immediately that I was not going to harm them in any way. It was not hard to explain the reasons of my work. 

I did not have an official training in communicating with the women I photographed and interviewed. I acted instinctively, seeing their dignity, their strength and delicacy at the same time, their sense of respect for other human beings even after surviving such ordeals. Also, that hidden hope that lived in each one of them. I used to share long walks in the park with the girls at the shelter. They love the Saturday morning walks when they can watch the brides of the day. They just secretly hoped one day they can return to normal life. I was both discreet and protective, respectful to their wishes, and always asking for their consent. 

One of the best pieces of advice that I had received in regards to portraying survivors and which I would say in my turn was to approach them with respect, to firstly see and show their humanity and dignity through my photography. Also, to have patience, something that I needed a lot in this long-term and slow-making project.
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<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-09.jpg" class="alignright" /><div class="QuoteText">"I was twelve years old. I don't want to talk about it.' — Alina"</div>
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<span class="InterviewQ">Are there any experiences from the women that you would like to share?</span>

The women in these photographs are among seventeen I met, interviewed and photographed them. Some of them were too fragile; some very strong, trying to leave behind a hated past while still coming to term with profound emotional distress. At the beginning, they shocked me with horrific details about the rape and violence they had survived. They talked about the <strong><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/jul/02/odessa-ukraine-sex-trafficking-investigation" target="new">Odessa boat</a></strong> which later on I went on, too, about the brothels or rooms they were locked in, some for weeks, other for months or even for a year, about the way they escaped.

Aurelia, a girl from Ukraine, shouted at me, “My story, do you want to hear my story? You have heard it -- over and over again." Clearly distraught, she told me how, a year after she came back from the Czech Republic, the police came to the door and started to question her. Then her husband and her mother-in-law chased her away from home. They had not known she was sold as a sex slave by a good friend. Her life was destroyed, she said.

Dalia, 20-years-old, always dragging along her two-year-old daughter, was the first one I encountered at the shelter. Dalia was sold by her husband-to-be. This was a trafficker that acted on his own in Moldova and was dating girls from different parts of the country; after a considerate amount of time, he would invite them to meet his family in Turkey and get married. Clarisa was sold by her best friend and Elena by the old lady living across the road in her village. Svetlana by a woman at the market that she thought she knew very well and some others by relatives. In many cases, the girls and women sold as cattle on the black market are approached by somebody that they know and trust. Larisa had been trafficked into Albania; on her way to Italy, she fell in love with her pimp who fathered her twins. She escaped after three years. 

In London, I met Svetlana, a young Moldovan who was sex trafficked into the UK. She showed me windows of particular Soho flats: the one with a cracked window was a “stinky" place; the one with a red light was a bit trendier. I later on entered five cribs with working girls.  I met two Romanians on this occasion. One was wearing tiny white socks and a pink robe thrown over a black spandex costume. She was from a city two hours from my native town. 

These women did not opt to become sex workers; they were locked in all sorts of locations, from flats and houses to brothels, threatened, beaten up and raped, put on drugs and alcohol and forced into it.  When I researched my subject, it was shown that women from Moldova had been sent to as many as 42 destinations.

I am still in touch with a few of the women I met in this journey and in more often contact with a couple of them. As a reaction, they were interested to see my work. One of them decided to help me continue my visual work on sex trafficking as much as she could and another one looked on the book dummy with curiosity, since she had been very much part of the project both as a survivor and a great help in translating and making the liaison with other girls at the shelter. When she reached the end of the book, she closed it and said, “Okay, from now on, we won't be talking about this anymore." We still keep in touch.

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<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-10.jpg" class="alignright" /><div class="QuoteText">"My husband-to-be sold me for $2200." — Dalia</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class="InterviewQ">How much responsibility do you feel as an artist to contribute to the world in a positive way or to bring attention to misdeeds in the world? Do you ever create without a narrative or mission in mind?</span>

The same responsibility one feels as a person searching for virtue, which it's probably a very innate human characteristic. But it doesn't mean I ask myself that question when I look at one of my pictures -- does it contribute to the world? It'd be a scary question and I wouldn't know how to answer it. To answer the other question, I usually have a pretty good idea of what I want to do before start shooting -- I wouldn't call it a mission or narrative -- which obviously can mutate throughout the process.

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<div class="IntroText">To call attention to this cause in our own way, we have decided to use the delicate work of Romanian and United Kingdom photographer <strong><a href=http://www.danapopa.com target="new">Dana Popa</a></strong> as a foundational point. After learning of the horrible realities of the sex trafficking trade, Popa set about to unveil the stories of its former victims, all of whom were around seventeen years of age and in various stages of recovery when Popa met them. The result of Popa's genuine quest was a piercing series called <em>not Natasha</em>, “Natasha" being the generic name given to Eastern European sex slaves.

Many series about sensitive topics shock one into sympathy. Not so with <em>not Natasha</em>; its images are often profound in the most mundane of ways, focusing not only on the women themselves but on the things that they leave behind -- while, in Popa's own words, capturing "a glimpse of their souls". It is beyond the photos themselves where the heart-breaking tales often lie, in the form of deception and betrayal from former lovers, neighbors, and friends, and of societies that allow women to be sacrificed to patterns of abuse and pain. 

In the full Q&A interview to follow, Popa recounts incredible stories -- some of which are difficult to believe -- while motivating us with powerful imagery. For more details on how you can be involved in V-Day events, please <strong><a href="http://www.vday.org" target="new">visit their website</a></strong>, or see more of Popa's work on <strong><a href=http://www.danapopa.com target="new">her website</a></strong>.</div>
<small>(17 IMAGES TOTAL)</small>

<a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2013/dana-popa-not-natasha-sex-trafficking-photography/"><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-02.jpg" class="alignright"></a><div class="QuoteText">"This work is dedicated to Dalia and all the girls who allowed me to have a glimpse of their souls and dig up a hidden, painful past. I hope I did it in the most delicate way."</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">What circumstances led you to the not Natasha project?</span>

What triggered my work was purely finding out what sex trafficking really means.

At the time, there was not much visual coverage of the illegal trade. Sex trafficking is the most profitable illegal business since the 1989 fall of the Soviet Union; it's a form of violence against women from my society. Little do people realise what this illegal trade is and how big and profitable it has become. So I decided to try and get a closer look at sex trafficking and record what it means for the women to survive sexual slavery. I chose to have a glimpse of their souls -- which at the time seemed very difficult to do, but that is what I was most interested in. After having heard their stories, I wanted to look at their traces -- at what women who had disappeared for years and who are believed to be trafficked and sexually enslaved leave behind. This became essential angle and part of the narrative. 

After being involved with this project I realised that its beginnings might have been triggered by my interest and knowledge of the woman's position in societies like the one I was born in. I acknowledge this story as a way of standing up against the societies that know what happens to their women and hide it without even doing anything about it.

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<a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2013/dana-popa-not-natasha-sex-trafficking-photography/"><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-04.jpg" class="aligncenter" /></a><p>&nbsp;</p><span id="more-25076"></span>
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-05.jpg" class="alignright" /><div class="QuoteText">"Natasha is a nickname given to prostitutes with Eastern European looks."</div><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="InterviewQ">It must have been difficult to deal with such a delicate situation. Did you have training in communicating with these woman or face any difficulty? What were some solutions that you employed, and do you have any advice for those who are hoping to speak with a woman who has undergone sexual trauma?</span>

The most pleasant part of the learning process was when I spent time at one of the shelters that offered them psychological assistance and accommodation for a month or so. I had spent two weeks with girls that just escaped sexual slavery. They were spinning stories about their ordeals every evening. This is what actually helped me frame the story and urged me to continue it at a later stage. The women accepted me in their lives, some for three weeks, some only for a few hours, depending where I'd meet them. They all understood immediately that I was not going to harm them in any way. It was not hard to explain the reasons of my work. 

I did not have an official training in communicating with the women I photographed and interviewed. I acted instinctively, seeing their dignity, their strength and delicacy at the same time, their sense of respect for other human beings even after surviving such ordeals. Also, that hidden hope that lived in each one of them. I used to share long walks in the park with the girls at the shelter. They love the Saturday morning walks when they can watch the brides of the day. They just secretly hoped one day they can return to normal life. I was both discreet and protective, respectful to their wishes, and always asking for their consent. 

One of the best pieces of advice that I had received in regards to portraying survivors and which I would say in my turn was to approach them with respect, to firstly see and show their humanity and dignity through my photography. Also, to have patience, something that I needed a lot in this long-term and slow-making project.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-06.jpg" class="aligncenter" />

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-07.jpg" class="aligncenter" />

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-08.jpg" class="aligncenter" />

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-09.jpg" class="alignright" /><div class="QuoteText">"I was twelve years old. I don't want to talk about it.' — Alina"</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Are there any experiences from the women that you would like to share?</span>

The women in these photographs are among seventeen I met, interviewed and photographed them. Some of them were too fragile; some very strong, trying to leave behind a hated past while still coming to term with profound emotional distress. At the beginning, they shocked me with horrific details about the rape and violence they had survived. They talked about the <strong><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/jul/02/odessa-ukraine-sex-trafficking-investigation" target="new">Odessa boat</a></strong> which later on I went on, too, about the brothels or rooms they were locked in, some for weeks, other for months or even for a year, about the way they escaped.

Aurelia, a girl from Ukraine, shouted at me, “My story, do you want to hear my story? You have heard it -- over and over again." Clearly distraught, she told me how, a year after she came back from the Czech Republic, the police came to the door and started to question her. Then her husband and her mother-in-law chased her away from home. They had not known she was sold as a sex slave by a good friend. Her life was destroyed, she said.

Dalia, 20-years-old, always dragging along her two-year-old daughter, was the first one I encountered at the shelter. Dalia was sold by her husband-to-be. This was a trafficker that acted on his own in Moldova and was dating girls from different parts of the country; after a considerate amount of time, he would invite them to meet his family in Turkey and get married. Clarisa was sold by her best friend and Elena by the old lady living across the road in her village. Svetlana by a woman at the market that she thought she knew very well and some others by relatives. In many cases, the girls and women sold as cattle on the black market are approached by somebody that they know and trust. Larisa had been trafficked into Albania; on her way to Italy, she fell in love with her pimp who fathered her twins. She escaped after three years. 

In London, I met Svetlana, a young Moldovan who was sex trafficked into the UK. She showed me windows of particular Soho flats: the one with a cracked window was a “stinky" place; the one with a red light was a bit trendier. I later on entered five cribs with working girls.  I met two Romanians on this occasion. One was wearing tiny white socks and a pink robe thrown over a black spandex costume. She was from a city two hours from my native town. 

These women did not opt to become sex workers; they were locked in all sorts of locations, from flats and houses to brothels, threatened, beaten up and raped, put on drugs and alcohol and forced into it.  When I researched my subject, it was shown that women from Moldova had been sent to as many as 42 destinations.

I am still in touch with a few of the women I met in this journey and in more often contact with a couple of them. As a reaction, they were interested to see my work. One of them decided to help me continue my visual work on sex trafficking as much as she could and another one looked on the book dummy with curiosity, since she had been very much part of the project both as a survivor and a great help in translating and making the liaison with other girls at the shelter. When she reached the end of the book, she closed it and said, “Okay, from now on, we won't be talking about this anymore." We still keep in touch.

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-11.jpg" class="aligncenter" />

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-12.jpg" class="aligncenter" />

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013_Dana-Popa-10.jpg" class="alignright" /><div class="QuoteText">"My husband-to-be sold me for $2200." — Dalia</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class="InterviewQ">How much responsibility do you feel as an artist to contribute to the world in a positive way or to bring attention to misdeeds in the world? Do you ever create without a narrative or mission in mind?</span>

The same responsibility one feels as a person searching for virtue, which it's probably a very innate human characteristic. But it doesn't mean I ask myself that question when I look at one of my pictures -- does it contribute to the world? It'd be a scary question and I wouldn't know how to answer it. To answer the other question, I usually have a pretty good idea of what I want to do before start shooting -- I wouldn't call it a mission or narrative -- which obviously can mutate throughout the process.

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		<description><![CDATA[<p><p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2012/alexis-arnold-artist-interview-borax-sculptures/"><strong>Alexis Arnold</strong> Artist Interview: Crystalizing The Present</a></p><p><p><img width="720" height="540" src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-01.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="Alexis Arnold Artist Interview" /></p><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-01.jpg" /> <img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis.jpg" class="alignright" style="margin-top: 40px;" /><div class="IntroText">San Francisco artist <strong>Alexis Arnold</strong> loves to explore unpredictable three-dimensional sculptures. With previous works centered around everything from training bra nets to faux-lawn upholstered decorations, her more recent <em>Past Of Our Future</em> and <em>The Crystallized Book Series</em> sees Arnold mixing scientific experimentation with everyday objects. Combining Borax crystals with things near and dear to human hearts, like vintage furniture and weathered books, Arnold grows wonderfully organic forms out of objects both malleable and solid, invoking nostalgia all along the way.

As Arnold says herself in the following interview, "Time (and its physical/visual presence) is an ever-present concept in my work, as well as a large factor in crystal growth" -- and it is this idea that adds even more importance to the past in her sculptures, as it contrasts with the present.</div>
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-02.jpg" />

<div class="QuoteText">"Certain things they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. I know that's impossible, but it's too bad anyway." <strong>-- <a href="/tag/j-d-salinger">J.D. Salinger</a> - <em>Catcher In The Rye</em></strong></div>
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<div class="QuoteText"><em>The Crystallized Book Series</em> was prompted by continuously finding boxes of discarded books/magazines, the onset of e-books, and by the recent disappearance of bookstores." <strong>-- Alexis Arnold</strong></div><div class="Clear"></div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div class="InterviewRight"><h3>Science Sidebar</h3>

<strong>About the Crystal-Growing Process</strong>

"I grow the crystals by creating a super-saturated solution of Borax in boiling water. When water boils, its molecules expand. I place the book in the saturated solution when hot and manipulate the book to my liking. As the saturated water cools again, the molecules shrink and any excess Borax crystallizes. Once the solution has completely cooled and the crystals have grown on the submerged objects, I drain the solution and dry the object without disturbing its shape. The objects will hold their new, transformed shape when completely dry."

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-Borax.jpg" />

<strong>About Borax</strong>

Borax, also known as sodium borate, sodium tetraborate, or disodium tetraborate, is an important boron compound, a mineral, and a salt of boric acid. It is usually a white powder consisting of soft colorless crystals that dissolve easily in water.

Borax has a wide variety of uses. It is a component of many detergents, cosmetics, and enamel glazes. It is also used to make buffer solutions in biochemistry, as a fire retardant, as an anti-fungal compound for fiberglass, as a flux in metallurgy, neutron-capture shields for radioactive sources, a texturing agent in cooking, and as a precursor for other boron compounds.

The term borax is used for a number of closely related minerals or chemical compounds that differ in their crystal water content, but usually refers to the decahydrate. Commercially sold borax is usually partially dehydrated.
The word borax:بورق is Arabic – the Arabic is said to be from the Persian burah, a word that may have meant potassium nitrate or another fluxing agent. Another name for borax is tincal, from Sanskrit.

Borax was first discovered in dry lake beds in Tibet and was imported via the Silk Road to Arabia. Borax first came into common use in the late 19th century when Francis Marion Smith's Pacific Coast Borax Company began to market and popularize a large variety of applications under the famous 20 Mule Team Borax trademark, named for the method by which borax was originally hauled out of the California and Nevada deserts in large enough quantities to make it cheap and commonly available.

<small><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borax" target="new">WIKIPEDIA</a></small></div>

<h3>Alexis Arnold Interview</h3>

<span class="InterviewQ">What first inspired you to work with Borax crystals?</span>
 
While I have had a fascination with crystals and minerals since I was little, their inclusion in my work happened somewhat by chance. About three years ago, I was force-rusting a metal sculpture using vinegar, salt, and soda ash when I noticed crystals growing on the concrete floor of my studio. Since I was working with concrete at the time, I decided to try and replicate the crystal growth with intention on the concrete and other objects. In addition to my aesthetic fascination with them, the crystals related conceptually to the project I was creating at that moment. 

The conceptual and aesthetic functions of the crystals have morphed with each project since. Time (and its physical/visual presence) is an ever-present concept in my work, as well as a large factor in crystal growth. Crystals found in nature generally form over thousands of years. In my studio, I get to play with nature and adjust its time frame.  

I mainly use Borax and Epsom salt crystals. This is because of their relatively cheap availability and non-toxicity. 
<em>The Crystallized Book Series</em> was prompted by continuously finding boxes of discarded books/magazines, the onset of e-books, and by the recent disappearance of bookstores. Furthermore, I had been growing crystals on hard objects and was interested in seeing the effect of the crystal growth on malleable objects. <p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Was there a method or goal behind your choice of literature or the ways in they were presented that goes beyond the aesthetics? If so, what is it?</span>
 
I try to incorporate mostly found books over buying specific titles, but select amongst them for the most conceptually and/or aesthetically appropriate. If I desire a specific title, I will buy it used. For example, the Bible and <em>The Crystal World</em> were purchased for particular conceptual reasons. I take titles from my own library collection as well. I choose certain books, such as <em>The Catcher in the Rye</em>, for the nostalgia people have for them. I have used a number of children’s books for this reason as well. One of my favorite found books for its conceptual tie to the project is a copy of <em>20,000 Leagues Under the Sea</em> published through the Classics to Grow On series. Dictionaries, encycolpedias, and phonebooks are some of the more commonly discarded books these days, hence they find their way into my work. 
 
The series addresses the materiality of the book vs the text/content of the book. The crystals remove the text and transform the books into aesthetic, non-functional objects. The books, now frozen with heavy crystal growth, have become artifacts or geologic specimens laden with the history of time, use, and nostalgia. The stories included in books often exist in our memories while the book remains a spine on a shelf. I love how just seeing a book can conjure the story contained within. With the addition of the crystal growth, the story within the book remains in memory, but new stories can be created by viewers as well. The series also illustrates one of the things I love about books or magazines, which is the lingering presence of the reader through the bent and folded pages longer after the book has been read.
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-03.jpg" /> <img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-04.jpg" />
<small><strong><a href="/tag/fyodor-dostoyevsky">FYODOR DOSTOYEVSKY</a></strong>'S <em>CRIME AND PUNISHMENT</em> (Фёдор Миха́йлович Достое́вский - Преступлéние и наказáние)</small>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Was there anything you learned about the structures of the materials you used that seemed particularly noteworthy or fascinating?</span>
 
I enjoy how malleable books become when submerged in hot water, even hard covers. This allows me to transform the books into new shapes that reference geologic specimens or artifacts. 
 
I find the structure of crystals fascinating. Each type of crystal shares the same molecular formula that repeats in a three-dimensional pattern, yet they present themselves in a myriad of shapes and sizes depending upon impurities, rates of formation, and environment. 
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Are there by chance any quotes or passages during your creation of these borax-crystallized books that seemed appropriate to the project itself?</span>
 
While no particular passages or quote come to mind, I came across the book, <em>The Crystal World</em>, by <strong><a href="/tag/j-g-ballard">J.G. Ballard</a></strong> while creating this series. The book is about a mysterious disease that crystallizes everything in its path from plant to animal to man, and certainly holds some inspiration for me.  
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Is there anything else you’d like to add?</span>
 
This may sound odd, but I wanted to let you know I am a woman. I recently had an article written for a Brazilian newspaper (<em>O Globo</em>) where I was referred to as a man, so I have learned it’s best to clarify this. 
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<strong>For the remainder of 2012, Alexis Arnold has work showing in various San Francisco galleries. See it at Alter Space through August 19th and Gallery Hijinks through July 28th. She will be showing collages and Salon Dehon for the month of August, as well as large crystallized book sculptures at Root Division <em>Biblio Babel</em> show in November.</strong><p>&nbsp;</p>

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<strong>ALEXIS ARNOLD'S <em>PAST OF OUR FUTURES</em> SERIES</strong>
"<em>The Past of Our Futures</em> was an installation at Fort Mason as part of the San Francisco Art Institute's 2010 MFA exhibition, <em>Vernissage</em>. The installation takes imagery from the domestic sphere, such as a set dinner table, to explore the human and natural process convergences and divergences through a narrative impetus tied to family, evolution, time, absence, and memory. In addition to referencing past memories, the work invokes a sense of a future post-human fall to environmental entropy."

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-06.jpg" /> <img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-07.jpg" /> <img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-08.jpg" /> <img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-09.jpg" />

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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2012/alexis-arnold-artist-interview-borax-sculptures/"><strong>Alexis Arnold</strong> Artist Interview: Crystalizing The Present</a></p><p><img width="720" height="540" src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-01.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="Alexis Arnold Artist Interview" /></p><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis-01.jpg" /> <img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Alexis.jpg" class="alignright" style="margin-top: 40px;" /><div class="IntroText">San Francisco artist <strong>Alexis Arnold</strong> loves to explore unpredictable three-dimensional sculptures. With previous works centered around everything from training bra nets to faux-lawn upholstered decorations, her more recent <em>Past Of Our Future</em> and <em>The Crystallized Book Series</em> sees Arnold mixing scientific experimentation with everyday objects. Combining Borax crystals with things near and dear to human hearts, like vintage furniture and weathered books, Arnold grows wonderfully organic forms out of objects both malleable and solid, invoking nostalgia all along the way.

As Arnold says herself in the following interview, "Time (and its physical/visual presence) is an ever-present concept in my work, as well as a large factor in crystal growth" -- and it is this idea that adds even more importance to the past in her sculptures, as it contrasts with the present.</div>
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<div class="QuoteText">"Certain things they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. I know that's impossible, but it's too bad anyway." <strong>-- <a href="/tag/j-d-salinger">J.D. Salinger</a> - <em>Catcher In The Rye</em></strong></div>
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<div class="QuoteText"><em>The Crystallized Book Series</em> was prompted by continuously finding boxes of discarded books/magazines, the onset of e-books, and by the recent disappearance of bookstores." <strong>-- Alexis Arnold</strong></div><div class="Clear"></div>
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<div class="InterviewRight"><h3>Science Sidebar</h3>

<strong>About the Crystal-Growing Process</strong>

"I grow the crystals by creating a super-saturated solution of Borax in boiling water. When water boils, its molecules expand. I place the book in the saturated solution when hot and manipulate the book to my liking. As the saturated water cools again, the molecules shrink and any excess Borax crystallizes. Once the solution has completely cooled and the crystals have grown on the submerged objects, I drain the solution and dry the object without disturbing its shape. The objects will hold their new, transformed shape when completely dry."

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<strong>About Borax</strong>

Borax, also known as sodium borate, sodium tetraborate, or disodium tetraborate, is an important boron compound, a mineral, and a salt of boric acid. It is usually a white powder consisting of soft colorless crystals that dissolve easily in water.

Borax has a wide variety of uses. It is a component of many detergents, cosmetics, and enamel glazes. It is also used to make buffer solutions in biochemistry, as a fire retardant, as an anti-fungal compound for fiberglass, as a flux in metallurgy, neutron-capture shields for radioactive sources, a texturing agent in cooking, and as a precursor for other boron compounds.

The term borax is used for a number of closely related minerals or chemical compounds that differ in their crystal water content, but usually refers to the decahydrate. Commercially sold borax is usually partially dehydrated.
The word borax:بورق is Arabic – the Arabic is said to be from the Persian burah, a word that may have meant potassium nitrate or another fluxing agent. Another name for borax is tincal, from Sanskrit.

Borax was first discovered in dry lake beds in Tibet and was imported via the Silk Road to Arabia. Borax first came into common use in the late 19th century when Francis Marion Smith's Pacific Coast Borax Company began to market and popularize a large variety of applications under the famous 20 Mule Team Borax trademark, named for the method by which borax was originally hauled out of the California and Nevada deserts in large enough quantities to make it cheap and commonly available.

<small><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borax" target="new">WIKIPEDIA</a></small></div>

<h3>Alexis Arnold Interview</h3>

<span class="InterviewQ">What first inspired you to work with Borax crystals?</span>
 
While I have had a fascination with crystals and minerals since I was little, their inclusion in my work happened somewhat by chance. About three years ago, I was force-rusting a metal sculpture using vinegar, salt, and soda ash when I noticed crystals growing on the concrete floor of my studio. Since I was working with concrete at the time, I decided to try and replicate the crystal growth with intention on the concrete and other objects. In addition to my aesthetic fascination with them, the crystals related conceptually to the project I was creating at that moment. 

The conceptual and aesthetic functions of the crystals have morphed with each project since. Time (and its physical/visual presence) is an ever-present concept in my work, as well as a large factor in crystal growth. Crystals found in nature generally form over thousands of years. In my studio, I get to play with nature and adjust its time frame.  

I mainly use Borax and Epsom salt crystals. This is because of their relatively cheap availability and non-toxicity. 
<em>The Crystallized Book Series</em> was prompted by continuously finding boxes of discarded books/magazines, the onset of e-books, and by the recent disappearance of bookstores. Furthermore, I had been growing crystals on hard objects and was interested in seeing the effect of the crystal growth on malleable objects. <p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Was there a method or goal behind your choice of literature or the ways in they were presented that goes beyond the aesthetics? If so, what is it?</span>
 
I try to incorporate mostly found books over buying specific titles, but select amongst them for the most conceptually and/or aesthetically appropriate. If I desire a specific title, I will buy it used. For example, the Bible and <em>The Crystal World</em> were purchased for particular conceptual reasons. I take titles from my own library collection as well. I choose certain books, such as <em>The Catcher in the Rye</em>, for the nostalgia people have for them. I have used a number of children’s books for this reason as well. One of my favorite found books for its conceptual tie to the project is a copy of <em>20,000 Leagues Under the Sea</em> published through the Classics to Grow On series. Dictionaries, encycolpedias, and phonebooks are some of the more commonly discarded books these days, hence they find their way into my work. 
 
The series addresses the materiality of the book vs the text/content of the book. The crystals remove the text and transform the books into aesthetic, non-functional objects. The books, now frozen with heavy crystal growth, have become artifacts or geologic specimens laden with the history of time, use, and nostalgia. The stories included in books often exist in our memories while the book remains a spine on a shelf. I love how just seeing a book can conjure the story contained within. With the addition of the crystal growth, the story within the book remains in memory, but new stories can be created by viewers as well. The series also illustrates one of the things I love about books or magazines, which is the lingering presence of the reader through the bent and folded pages longer after the book has been read.
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<small><strong><a href="/tag/fyodor-dostoyevsky">FYODOR DOSTOYEVSKY</a></strong>'S <em>CRIME AND PUNISHMENT</em> (Фёдор Миха́йлович Достое́вский - Преступлéние и наказáние)</small>
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<span class="InterviewQ">Was there anything you learned about the structures of the materials you used that seemed particularly noteworthy or fascinating?</span>
 
I enjoy how malleable books become when submerged in hot water, even hard covers. This allows me to transform the books into new shapes that reference geologic specimens or artifacts. 
 
I find the structure of crystals fascinating. Each type of crystal shares the same molecular formula that repeats in a three-dimensional pattern, yet they present themselves in a myriad of shapes and sizes depending upon impurities, rates of formation, and environment. 
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<span class="InterviewQ">Are there by chance any quotes or passages during your creation of these borax-crystallized books that seemed appropriate to the project itself?</span>
 
While no particular passages or quote come to mind, I came across the book, <em>The Crystal World</em>, by <strong><a href="/tag/j-g-ballard">J.G. Ballard</a></strong> while creating this series. The book is about a mysterious disease that crystallizes everything in its path from plant to animal to man, and certainly holds some inspiration for me.  
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<span class="InterviewQ">Is there anything else you’d like to add?</span>
 
This may sound odd, but I wanted to let you know I am a woman. I recently had an article written for a Brazilian newspaper (<em>O Globo</em>) where I was referred to as a man, so I have learned it’s best to clarify this. 
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<strong>For the remainder of 2012, Alexis Arnold has work showing in various San Francisco galleries. See it at Alter Space through August 19th and Gallery Hijinks through July 28th. She will be showing collages and Salon Dehon for the month of August, as well as large crystallized book sculptures at Root Division <em>Biblio Babel</em> show in November.</strong><p>&nbsp;</p>

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<strong>ALEXIS ARNOLD'S <em>PAST OF OUR FUTURES</em> SERIES</strong>
"<em>The Past of Our Futures</em> was an installation at Fort Mason as part of the San Francisco Art Institute's 2010 MFA exhibition, <em>Vernissage</em>. The installation takes imagery from the domestic sphere, such as a set dinner table, to explore the human and natural process convergences and divergences through a narrative impetus tied to family, evolution, time, absence, and memory. In addition to referencing past memories, the work invokes a sense of a future post-human fall to environmental entropy."

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<div class="IntroText">Seattle artist Bette Burgoyne creates intricate colored pencil drawings that flow like the mechanizations of the universe. Inspired by geometry and pattern-based forms as well as nature, science, mathematics, and music, Burgoyne places heavy reliance on how perspectives and viewpoints shift and unfold over time. As she states simply in her personal statement, "My intention is to reveal a spectacle of wood, water, light and atmosphere; to share my enthusiasm for these processes and patterns that overlay, harmonize and echo one another."

In the Q&A below, Burgoyne expands on this intention by describing her approach, factors that led her to her current body of work, and how music plays a significant role on her process.</div>

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<span class="InterviewQ">One who was looking at your work could easily think that certain sections were tree trunks or cobwebs or any number of other non-abstract things. Are there narratives or subjects to be found in your work, or are they simply geometric or pattern-based?</span>

Yes, there are tree trunks and cobwebs.  And they are also geometric and pattern-based.   I love the perceived universe as a place where everything follows mathematical structures.  
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<span class="InterviewQ">How much of your work is additive versus subtractive?</span>

The drawings are 98% additive. Erasure dulls the lines and mars the paper, so I use it sparingly only to reduce occasional over-brights.
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<span class="InterviewQ">What kind of setting do you work in? I would imagine that work as contrasting and fine as yours would need a setting that would allow you to see well, spend a large amount of time, etc.</span>

There is no art studio, so I work at home where it's comfortable, chair or couch.  On my lap is a pillow and on top of the pillow is a piece of foam-board supporting the drawing.  I wear reading glasses and have a lamp nearby.  A devoted time commitment is inevitable for these drawings.  There is music on the stereo, always.  
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<span class="InterviewQ">What is it about black and white and grayscale that most interests you? Do you ever consider working with colored paper or pencil?</span>

Not sure why, but I flourish under the limitation of monochrome.   I hope to offer an alternative to the abundance of sharp contrast and unrelenting bold colors that fill our urban situation.  It's not that I don't enjoy the oomph of Helvetica signs and neon spandex; I just want to have another choice. There are a handful drawings I've made using red, gray, and brown paper with various colored pencils, but black paper is the mainstay.
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<span class="InterviewQ">How do you feel about the spreading of your work upon the internet, as it
is obviously of a type which gets somewhat lost in translation?</span>

Sometimes the internet is the only venue available. It's nice connecting with people who appreciate what I'm up to.  Without the internet exposure I wouldn't have become acquainted with some wonderful Eastern European artists who I feel artistic kinship with.
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<span class="InterviewQ"> I would like to talk a bit about <em>Scroll</em>; is that the largest piece you've
worked on, and how difficult was it to gain perspective on it?</span>

<em>Scroll</em> was the largest before February, when I began working on <em>Forest</em>, a 30-foot-long drawing that is slowly building. Time makes perspective easier.  When I work on a drawing for an extended period I become a lost myopic, so I hide the drawing from view for a day while I'm running errands.  When I see it again portions become clear and the drawing tells me what to do next.
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<strong>Bette Burgoyne - <em>Forest</em> (progress photo)</strong>
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<strong>Bette Burgoyne - <em>Scroll</em></strong>
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<strong>Zhang Zeduan - <em>QingMing ShangHe Tu</em></strong>
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<span class="InterviewQ">What led to the decision of using video to document this particular piece?</span>

I wanted to share <em>Scroll</em> with people, and a video on YouTube and Vimeo seemed a good way to do it.  No actual videotaping took place.  A large .tiff file was made from the drawing at Art & Soul, and it was edited andtransformed into a panning video by 4th Wall Films. There is a lovely panning video of a Chinese landscape painting by Zhang Zeduan you should see.
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<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_Bette-Burgoyne-05_s.jpg" class="alignright" /><span class="InterviewQ">You gained permission from Animal Collective, Rough Trade Publishing, and Fat Cat Records to use the track in the video; how difficult or involved was that process?</span>

Animal Collective received my email describing what I had in mind for their beautiful languid song "Visiting Friends".  Included was a link to my site.  They emailed back, "Looks cool", and included email addresses in order to get full clearance of "Visiting Friends" from Fat Cat and Rough Trade.  It all took about 2-3 weeks.
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<span class="InterviewQ">The work on your website only spans back to 2009. How has your work evolved through the years?</span>

I created sculpture and installation for several years before a series of deaths and heartbreak altered my life course.  The early 2000s was a four year period of creating <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scherenschnitte" target="new">scherenschnitte</a> from black paper.  After the 2008 bout with cancer and chemo, I began to create drawings from a place essential, shedding the layers of cleverness that was part of the earlier work.     
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<span class="InterviewQ">As an older artist, how do you feel about the Seattle art scene right now -- how it has changed, where it is, and where you think it is going?</span>

It is good see more women artists receiving recognition, maybe we'll achieve balance someday? My favorite thing in the current Seattle art scene is <strong><a href="http://firstthursdayartschlock.tumblr.com/" target="new">First Thursday Art Schlock</a></strong>. 
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<div class="IntroText">Seattle artist Bette Burgoyne creates intricate colored pencil drawings that flow like the mechanizations of the universe. Inspired by geometry and pattern-based forms as well as nature, science, mathematics, and music, Burgoyne places heavy reliance on how perspectives and viewpoints shift and unfold over time. As she states simply in her personal statement, "My intention is to reveal a spectacle of wood, water, light and atmosphere; to share my enthusiasm for these processes and patterns that overlay, harmonize and echo one another."

In the Q&A below, Burgoyne expands on this intention by describing her approach, factors that led her to her current body of work, and how music plays a significant role on her process.</div>

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<span class="InterviewQ">One who was looking at your work could easily think that certain sections were tree trunks or cobwebs or any number of other non-abstract things. Are there narratives or subjects to be found in your work, or are they simply geometric or pattern-based?</span>

Yes, there are tree trunks and cobwebs.  And they are also geometric and pattern-based.   I love the perceived universe as a place where everything follows mathematical structures.  
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<span class="InterviewQ">How much of your work is additive versus subtractive?</span>

The drawings are 98% additive. Erasure dulls the lines and mars the paper, so I use it sparingly only to reduce occasional over-brights.
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<span class="InterviewQ">What kind of setting do you work in? I would imagine that work as contrasting and fine as yours would need a setting that would allow you to see well, spend a large amount of time, etc.</span>

There is no art studio, so I work at home where it's comfortable, chair or couch.  On my lap is a pillow and on top of the pillow is a piece of foam-board supporting the drawing.  I wear reading glasses and have a lamp nearby.  A devoted time commitment is inevitable for these drawings.  There is music on the stereo, always.  
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<span class="InterviewQ">What is it about black and white and grayscale that most interests you? Do you ever consider working with colored paper or pencil?</span>

Not sure why, but I flourish under the limitation of monochrome.   I hope to offer an alternative to the abundance of sharp contrast and unrelenting bold colors that fill our urban situation.  It's not that I don't enjoy the oomph of Helvetica signs and neon spandex; I just want to have another choice. There are a handful drawings I've made using red, gray, and brown paper with various colored pencils, but black paper is the mainstay.
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<span class="InterviewQ">How do you feel about the spreading of your work upon the internet, as it
is obviously of a type which gets somewhat lost in translation?</span>

Sometimes the internet is the only venue available. It's nice connecting with people who appreciate what I'm up to.  Without the internet exposure I wouldn't have become acquainted with some wonderful Eastern European artists who I feel artistic kinship with.
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<span class="InterviewQ"> I would like to talk a bit about <em>Scroll</em>; is that the largest piece you've
worked on, and how difficult was it to gain perspective on it?</span>

<em>Scroll</em> was the largest before February, when I began working on <em>Forest</em>, a 30-foot-long drawing that is slowly building. Time makes perspective easier.  When I work on a drawing for an extended period I become a lost myopic, so I hide the drawing from view for a day while I'm running errands.  When I see it again portions become clear and the drawing tells me what to do next.
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<strong>Bette Burgoyne - <em>Forest</em> (progress photo)</strong>
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<strong>Bette Burgoyne - <em>Scroll</em></strong>
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<strong>Zhang Zeduan - <em>QingMing ShangHe Tu</em></strong>
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<span class="InterviewQ">What led to the decision of using video to document this particular piece?</span>

I wanted to share <em>Scroll</em> with people, and a video on YouTube and Vimeo seemed a good way to do it.  No actual videotaping took place.  A large .tiff file was made from the drawing at Art & Soul, and it was edited andtransformed into a panning video by 4th Wall Films. There is a lovely panning video of a Chinese landscape painting by Zhang Zeduan you should see.
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Animal Collective received my email describing what I had in mind for their beautiful languid song "Visiting Friends".  Included was a link to my site.  They emailed back, "Looks cool", and included email addresses in order to get full clearance of "Visiting Friends" from Fat Cat and Rough Trade.  It all took about 2-3 weeks.
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<span class="InterviewQ">The work on your website only spans back to 2009. How has your work evolved through the years?</span>

I created sculpture and installation for several years before a series of deaths and heartbreak altered my life course.  The early 2000s was a four year period of creating <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scherenschnitte" target="new">scherenschnitte</a> from black paper.  After the 2008 bout with cancer and chemo, I began to create drawings from a place essential, shedding the layers of cleverness that was part of the earlier work.     
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<span class="InterviewQ">As an older artist, how do you feel about the Seattle art scene right now -- how it has changed, where it is, and where you think it is going?</span>

It is good see more women artists receiving recognition, maybe we'll achieve balance someday? My favorite thing in the current Seattle art scene is <strong><a href="http://firstthursdayartschlock.tumblr.com/" target="new">First Thursday Art Schlock</a></strong>. 
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		<title>Shaun Kardinal &amp; Erin Frost Joint Artist Interview: Entangled In Embroidery</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2012/shaun-kardinal-erin-frost-artist-interview-seattle-embroidery/"><strong>Shaun Kardinal &#038; Erin Frost Joint Artist Interview</strong>: Entangled In Embroidery</a></p><p><p><img width="720" height="720" src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Shaun-Kardinal-05.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="Shaun-Kardinal-05" /></p><div class="IntroText">Before Seattle artists Shaun Kardinal and Erin Frost met one another, art and creation were relatively solitary activities. Now, as romantic partners, they find in one another both artistic confidante and critic, and another with whom to share space and explore overlapping interests in geometry, collage, embroidery, and reuse. In this joint interview, both artists discuss their personal works as well as the collaborations which tie them together, both figuratively and literally.</div>
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<h3>Erin Frost</h3><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Erin-Frost-01.jpg" alt="" title="Erin Frost" style="width: 350px;" />
<strong><em>Alteration No 12</em></strong>
"<em>Alteration No 12</em> was my very first piece of this nature. It was intimidating and exhilarating to "destroy" something i had made. It's a strong signifier of recent change, play, and exploration. Its balance and pattern are one of my favorites, visually. It wasn't mapped, but sewn free hand, each point leading to the next, and because of that it, it maintains a loose and taught path. It flows yet is contained." - Erin Frost

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<strong><em>Alterotations</em></strong>
"<em>Alterotations</em> was made for a mobile gallery project curated by Sierra Stinson in New York in 2011. For this piece, I started with a more defined pattern (the circle) and plotted growing triangles within. I wanted to play with the radiating visual, to complement the original idea of the piece. At the time, I shot the original photograph (<em>Black Lace</em>), I was really trying to capture the sensation of love/lust/elation where it seems you can feel your heart expand, like it exists outside of you." - Erin Frost</div>

<h3>Shaun Kardinal</h3>

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<strong><em>Connotation no. 8</em></strong>
"This was one of the earlier pieces made for <em>Connotations</em>. It has a few cut-up postcards and features the shaped-collage-behind-thread I had envisioned when first starting the series. While very satisfying when it worked, the technique proved very tricky, since each piece of imagery was first cut and then spray-mounted into place for embroidering. The outwardly radiating points that touch the white paper were placed there in attempt to make the thing look like it was held together solely with thread. It worked here, but I found it distracting in other pieces and eventually left that element behind..." - Shaun Kardinal
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<strong><em>Connotation no. 15</em></strong>
"This was my favorite of the series which incorporated a single, full-frame image. The design of the three orbs came to me while riding the bus one afternoon, and I was fortunate to have my Moleskine and some pens with me at the time. like most of the work in this series, the image came from a LIFE magazine published in the mid-'50s." - Shaun Kardinal
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<strong><em>Intercourse</em></strong>
"When we were invited to have a show at <em>Vignettes</em> (a series of one-night exhibits, hosted in a studio apartment), we decided that in addition to a wall of our individual works, we wanted to collaborate on something that would fill the other wall. Both of us have a history of performance self-portraiture, so it was only natural that photography would mix with our newfound love of string...

One thing we really like about this set (which we call a four-part triptych), is that the whole of it was planned out in one brief conversation, where three clearly defined visuals were discussed and sketched out in about five minutes. In the end, all three were executed exactly as originally conceived. Each was challenging in its own way, but <em>Intercourse</em>, the panoramic photo, was probably the most so. Wearing yarn-sewn rings around the backs of our heads and shooting without assistance from a third party, we had to remain face to face, attached at all times. One of us would hold position while the other carefully sidled over to trigger the shutter timer again. then we had just a few seconds to get back into position -- a tricky thing, where we each had to make many quick, small adjustments to the angles between us, in order to keep the string taught, while maintaining eye contact." - Shaun Kardinal

"Our <em>Intercourse</em> collaboration has been one of the most enjoyable projects. Process, production, and execution were all satisfying. The idea was simple, quick, and well-communicated. The process of making this piece was really what it was about: the tension that bound us, literally tied together in a delicate balance, to work together intuitively. It was interesting to see this joined effort come together, not only joining us, but our photography, performance, and embroidery [as well]." - Erin Frost
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<h3>Shaun Kardinal</h3>

<span class="InterviewQ">Your new <em>Connotations</em> series is remarkable. Is there an abstract philosophy behind the images or shapes you layer upon certain collages or are they merely aesthetic decisions?</span>

"If it feels good, do it." - Bart Simpson

With rare exception, it's all an exercise in aesthetic. I'm very fond of design and can find myself lost in color. Over time, the works have begun to show a more consistent vision -- the single graphical element dominating a landscape. Though that happened mostly organically, I was definitely impressed and inspired by the digital collage work of Mark Weaver, who often incorporates bright, bold circles in his work. the use of thread has a very specific limitation: one can only work in straight lines. to create a curve (like a bright, bold circle), one has to trick the mind with an organized series of lines, so these geometric patterns arise.

<span class="InterviewQ">You mention that mandalas and radial compositions have provided long-time fascinations for you. What is it about them that draws your attention or interest?</span>

It's hard to say. I've got some obsessive-compulsive tendencies which tend to be a little myopic. For instance, the files on my computer are well organized -- very well organized, indeed -- but the inbox next to it on my desk is essentially an illogical junk drawer. Mandalas provide an organized, ever-centralizing focal point. Stray from the center and an equal/opposite force brings one right back. It's comforting.

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<h3>Erin Frost</h3>
<span class="InterviewQ">You have long been involved with erotic photography. With your current embroidery and collage work, are you attracting new audiences? Do you find that having a nude component to your work polarizes opinions about your work?</span>

It has been interesting shifting gears. It's all so new and I'm sharing it as I go, so it feels raw, and just as intimate as my "erotic" photographs. So far, the response has been positive. And while it will be interesting to see where it goes from here, I honestly do not know what opinion is about my work. I've always made it entirely selfishly. It is all a part of the constant transformation.  
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<span class="InterviewQ">Did your "Cut And Run" [piece] involve completely destroying original photographs? If so, is there a symbolic restart involved with that?</span>

The "Cut And Run" piece did destroy the original photographs. It is a potent marker in time, and very much a symbolic restart.

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<h3>Joint Q&A</h3>
<span class="InterviewQ">Can you tell me a bit about artistic trajectories – where your artistic career has began and how it has evolved through the years to reach its current point?</span>

<strong>Shaun Kardinal:</strong> The earliest exhibition you'll find on my resume was a show devoted to photographs of buildings. After falling in love with photography in my teens and subsequently losing interest during my depression-riddled early twenties, those photos were definitely part of a re-emergence for me. I got my feet wet exhibiting work a few times and found a real connection to Seattle's art community. At the time, I was also co-running an alternative space gallery, which was based in a frame shop that handled work from most of the art galleries downtown -- so I was really in the thick of it! 

After about a year with the buildings, I turned the camera on myself for a series examining mundane daily existence. I really enjoyed that work and people really seemed to like what I was doing. I landed some great exhibition opportunities and met some amazing people. But even as those opportunities grew, I began to feel less inspired and in need of a change. I found myself exhausted with artist statements, applications and the incessant race to get the next show. So, I stopped seeking them out. Even turned a few down.

In 2009, I participated in a few of <em>Vital 5's Arbitrary Art Grants</em>, which had amazingly off-beat calls for art (such as: photograph a sculpture you make out of grocery store items while in the store or act as a wall, displaying art in an imaginary storefront), and the experience was definitely an impetus to try new things. For a short while, I was very much into making bumperstickers! I also started making small pieces that I sent to friends in the mail, undocumented. One day I received a piece from Dawn Stechschulte -- a small, hand-sewn collage with painting, stickers and an old magazine clipping. In response, I cut up a few postcards and sewed them up to create a fictional landscape. I loved it, and made more. Soon I was making them for no one -- just keeping my hands occupied. For three years now, I've been hooked on paper embroidery, and allowing it to evolve as the ideas come to me.

<strong>Erin Frost:</strong> I'm not really sure how to approach the subject of "career." I have been very single-minded in the work I've made for many years -- changing, transforming, manipulating myself, and the idea of self. I think I've been fairly fortunate in that people seem to like what I've made. It can be tricky, though, making intimate work and being grouped in the "erotic" category. I haven't made work necessarily to be singularly erotic, nor do I enjoy most "erotic art." It can be a heavy and dismissive descriptor. Maybe that's one of the reasons these <em>Alterations</em> have been so enjoyable, tearing down/making new, another way to claim my work as my own. 

<small>INTERVIEW CONTINUED BELOW</small>
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Erin-Frost-08.jpg" /> <img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Shaun-Kardinal-07.jpg" />

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Erin-Frost-04.jpg" class="alignright" /> <span class="InterviewQ">Do you guys critique or offer suggestions for one another's work, or is it generally a fairly isolated endeavor?</span>

<strong>Shaun Kardinal:</strong> We both work in our apartment, often at the same time just a few feet from each other while we listen to music or re-watch a favorite show. We're definitely suggestive and critica -- but more importantly, perhaps, we're also each very supportive. Every artist has the occasional fit over a project, reaching moments of doubtful frustration, but having the other near, offering words of encouragement and logic, can be even more fruitful. 

<strong>Erin Frost:</strong> Before we met, I think the process of making art was a fairly isolated experience for both of us. It certainly was for me. I would create personas and construct sets, playing parts for the camera, and spend hours in the darkroom. now, however, our work shares space. it overlaps, and we are both involved with the other's work and ideas. it's quite liberating.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Your work definitely has overlapping similarities, particularly when one takes into account the medium and the geometries. Are there qualities which are shared in your work that you would say are also reflections of your shared interests or are indications of shared personal qualities?</span>

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Shaun-Kardinal-03.jpg" alt="" class="alignright" /><strong>Shaun Kardinal:</strong> With the <em>Alterations</em> series (the ~60 works we showed mixed together at <em>Vignettes</em>), there was a clear definition that we both wanted to use recycled materials. (For me, that translated to collecting vintage postcards. Since Erin has been printing her own photos for years, she already had ample supply for experimentation.) I'd say we are both pretty interested in renewal and revitalization, in general. 

<strong>Erin Frost:</strong> There are certainly qualities that we share both in our creative work and personal interests. Apart from the mediums of photography and embroidery, I think that we've both pursued self-portraits is fairly telling. There are themes of balance, identity, and intimacy in play, both publicly in our art and in our personal experiences. It seems the embroidery can at times be seen quite literally a physical representation of that balance. 
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Do you ever find yourselves dissecting everyday objects into shapes and patterns, and if so, are there moments you can recall of that happening? </span>

<strong>Shaun Kardinal:</strong> Not as much as when I played daily Tetris.

<strong>Erin Frost:</strong> I don't see patterns in everything, but I'm very good at spotting cat whiskers on the floor. Shaun calls me Eagle Eye. <p>&nbsp;</p>

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<h5><a href="http://erin-frost.com/" target="new">www.erin-frost.com</a> + <a href="http://shaunkardinal.com/" target="new">www.shaunkardinal.com</a></h5>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2012/shaun-kardinal-erin-frost-artist-interview-seattle-embroidery/"><strong>Shaun Kardinal &#038; Erin Frost Joint Artist Interview</strong>: Entangled In Embroidery</a></p><p><img width="720" height="720" src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Shaun-Kardinal-05.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="Shaun-Kardinal-05" /></p><div class="IntroText">Before Seattle artists Shaun Kardinal and Erin Frost met one another, art and creation were relatively solitary activities. Now, as romantic partners, they find in one another both artistic confidante and critic, and another with whom to share space and explore overlapping interests in geometry, collage, embroidery, and reuse. In this joint interview, both artists discuss their personal works as well as the collaborations which tie them together, both figuratively and literally.</div>
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<h3>Erin Frost</h3><img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Erin-Frost-01.jpg" alt="" title="Erin Frost" style="width: 350px;" />
<strong><em>Alteration No 12</em></strong>
"<em>Alteration No 12</em> was my very first piece of this nature. It was intimidating and exhilarating to "destroy" something i had made. It's a strong signifier of recent change, play, and exploration. Its balance and pattern are one of my favorites, visually. It wasn't mapped, but sewn free hand, each point leading to the next, and because of that it, it maintains a loose and taught path. It flows yet is contained." - Erin Frost

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<strong><em>Alterotations</em></strong>
"<em>Alterotations</em> was made for a mobile gallery project curated by Sierra Stinson in New York in 2011. For this piece, I started with a more defined pattern (the circle) and plotted growing triangles within. I wanted to play with the radiating visual, to complement the original idea of the piece. At the time, I shot the original photograph (<em>Black Lace</em>), I was really trying to capture the sensation of love/lust/elation where it seems you can feel your heart expand, like it exists outside of you." - Erin Frost</div>

<h3>Shaun Kardinal</h3>

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<strong><em>Connotation no. 8</em></strong>
"This was one of the earlier pieces made for <em>Connotations</em>. It has a few cut-up postcards and features the shaped-collage-behind-thread I had envisioned when first starting the series. While very satisfying when it worked, the technique proved very tricky, since each piece of imagery was first cut and then spray-mounted into place for embroidering. The outwardly radiating points that touch the white paper were placed there in attempt to make the thing look like it was held together solely with thread. It worked here, but I found it distracting in other pieces and eventually left that element behind..." - Shaun Kardinal
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<strong><em>Connotation no. 15</em></strong>
"This was my favorite of the series which incorporated a single, full-frame image. The design of the three orbs came to me while riding the bus one afternoon, and I was fortunate to have my Moleskine and some pens with me at the time. like most of the work in this series, the image came from a LIFE magazine published in the mid-'50s." - Shaun Kardinal
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<strong><em>Intercourse</em></strong>
"When we were invited to have a show at <em>Vignettes</em> (a series of one-night exhibits, hosted in a studio apartment), we decided that in addition to a wall of our individual works, we wanted to collaborate on something that would fill the other wall. Both of us have a history of performance self-portraiture, so it was only natural that photography would mix with our newfound love of string...

One thing we really like about this set (which we call a four-part triptych), is that the whole of it was planned out in one brief conversation, where three clearly defined visuals were discussed and sketched out in about five minutes. In the end, all three were executed exactly as originally conceived. Each was challenging in its own way, but <em>Intercourse</em>, the panoramic photo, was probably the most so. Wearing yarn-sewn rings around the backs of our heads and shooting without assistance from a third party, we had to remain face to face, attached at all times. One of us would hold position while the other carefully sidled over to trigger the shutter timer again. then we had just a few seconds to get back into position -- a tricky thing, where we each had to make many quick, small adjustments to the angles between us, in order to keep the string taught, while maintaining eye contact." - Shaun Kardinal

"Our <em>Intercourse</em> collaboration has been one of the most enjoyable projects. Process, production, and execution were all satisfying. The idea was simple, quick, and well-communicated. The process of making this piece was really what it was about: the tension that bound us, literally tied together in a delicate balance, to work together intuitively. It was interesting to see this joined effort come together, not only joining us, but our photography, performance, and embroidery [as well]." - Erin Frost
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<h3>Shaun Kardinal</h3>

<span class="InterviewQ">Your new <em>Connotations</em> series is remarkable. Is there an abstract philosophy behind the images or shapes you layer upon certain collages or are they merely aesthetic decisions?</span>

"If it feels good, do it." - Bart Simpson

With rare exception, it's all an exercise in aesthetic. I'm very fond of design and can find myself lost in color. Over time, the works have begun to show a more consistent vision -- the single graphical element dominating a landscape. Though that happened mostly organically, I was definitely impressed and inspired by the digital collage work of Mark Weaver, who often incorporates bright, bold circles in his work. the use of thread has a very specific limitation: one can only work in straight lines. to create a curve (like a bright, bold circle), one has to trick the mind with an organized series of lines, so these geometric patterns arise.

<span class="InterviewQ">You mention that mandalas and radial compositions have provided long-time fascinations for you. What is it about them that draws your attention or interest?</span>

It's hard to say. I've got some obsessive-compulsive tendencies which tend to be a little myopic. For instance, the files on my computer are well organized -- very well organized, indeed -- but the inbox next to it on my desk is essentially an illogical junk drawer. Mandalas provide an organized, ever-centralizing focal point. Stray from the center and an equal/opposite force brings one right back. It's comforting.

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<h3>Erin Frost</h3>
<span class="InterviewQ">You have long been involved with erotic photography. With your current embroidery and collage work, are you attracting new audiences? Do you find that having a nude component to your work polarizes opinions about your work?</span>

It has been interesting shifting gears. It's all so new and I'm sharing it as I go, so it feels raw, and just as intimate as my "erotic" photographs. So far, the response has been positive. And while it will be interesting to see where it goes from here, I honestly do not know what opinion is about my work. I've always made it entirely selfishly. It is all a part of the constant transformation.  
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Did your "Cut And Run" [piece] involve completely destroying original photographs? If so, is there a symbolic restart involved with that?</span>

The "Cut And Run" piece did destroy the original photographs. It is a potent marker in time, and very much a symbolic restart.

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<h3>Joint Q&A</h3>
<span class="InterviewQ">Can you tell me a bit about artistic trajectories – where your artistic career has began and how it has evolved through the years to reach its current point?</span>

<strong>Shaun Kardinal:</strong> The earliest exhibition you'll find on my resume was a show devoted to photographs of buildings. After falling in love with photography in my teens and subsequently losing interest during my depression-riddled early twenties, those photos were definitely part of a re-emergence for me. I got my feet wet exhibiting work a few times and found a real connection to Seattle's art community. At the time, I was also co-running an alternative space gallery, which was based in a frame shop that handled work from most of the art galleries downtown -- so I was really in the thick of it! 

After about a year with the buildings, I turned the camera on myself for a series examining mundane daily existence. I really enjoyed that work and people really seemed to like what I was doing. I landed some great exhibition opportunities and met some amazing people. But even as those opportunities grew, I began to feel less inspired and in need of a change. I found myself exhausted with artist statements, applications and the incessant race to get the next show. So, I stopped seeking them out. Even turned a few down.

In 2009, I participated in a few of <em>Vital 5's Arbitrary Art Grants</em>, which had amazingly off-beat calls for art (such as: photograph a sculpture you make out of grocery store items while in the store or act as a wall, displaying art in an imaginary storefront), and the experience was definitely an impetus to try new things. For a short while, I was very much into making bumperstickers! I also started making small pieces that I sent to friends in the mail, undocumented. One day I received a piece from Dawn Stechschulte -- a small, hand-sewn collage with painting, stickers and an old magazine clipping. In response, I cut up a few postcards and sewed them up to create a fictional landscape. I loved it, and made more. Soon I was making them for no one -- just keeping my hands occupied. For three years now, I've been hooked on paper embroidery, and allowing it to evolve as the ideas come to me.

<strong>Erin Frost:</strong> I'm not really sure how to approach the subject of "career." I have been very single-minded in the work I've made for many years -- changing, transforming, manipulating myself, and the idea of self. I think I've been fairly fortunate in that people seem to like what I've made. It can be tricky, though, making intimate work and being grouped in the "erotic" category. I haven't made work necessarily to be singularly erotic, nor do I enjoy most "erotic art." It can be a heavy and dismissive descriptor. Maybe that's one of the reasons these <em>Alterations</em> have been so enjoyable, tearing down/making new, another way to claim my work as my own. 

<small>INTERVIEW CONTINUED BELOW</small>
<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Erin-Frost-08.jpg" /> <img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Shaun-Kardinal-07.jpg" />

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Erin-Frost-04.jpg" class="alignright" /> <span class="InterviewQ">Do you guys critique or offer suggestions for one another's work, or is it generally a fairly isolated endeavor?</span>

<strong>Shaun Kardinal:</strong> We both work in our apartment, often at the same time just a few feet from each other while we listen to music or re-watch a favorite show. We're definitely suggestive and critica -- but more importantly, perhaps, we're also each very supportive. Every artist has the occasional fit over a project, reaching moments of doubtful frustration, but having the other near, offering words of encouragement and logic, can be even more fruitful. 

<strong>Erin Frost:</strong> Before we met, I think the process of making art was a fairly isolated experience for both of us. It certainly was for me. I would create personas and construct sets, playing parts for the camera, and spend hours in the darkroom. now, however, our work shares space. it overlaps, and we are both involved with the other's work and ideas. it's quite liberating.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Your work definitely has overlapping similarities, particularly when one takes into account the medium and the geometries. Are there qualities which are shared in your work that you would say are also reflections of your shared interests or are indications of shared personal qualities?</span>

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Shaun-Kardinal-03.jpg" alt="" class="alignright" /><strong>Shaun Kardinal:</strong> With the <em>Alterations</em> series (the ~60 works we showed mixed together at <em>Vignettes</em>), there was a clear definition that we both wanted to use recycled materials. (For me, that translated to collecting vintage postcards. Since Erin has been printing her own photos for years, she already had ample supply for experimentation.) I'd say we are both pretty interested in renewal and revitalization, in general. 

<strong>Erin Frost:</strong> There are certainly qualities that we share both in our creative work and personal interests. Apart from the mediums of photography and embroidery, I think that we've both pursued self-portraits is fairly telling. There are themes of balance, identity, and intimacy in play, both publicly in our art and in our personal experiences. It seems the embroidery can at times be seen quite literally a physical representation of that balance. 
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Do you ever find yourselves dissecting everyday objects into shapes and patterns, and if so, are there moments you can recall of that happening? </span>

<strong>Shaun Kardinal:</strong> Not as much as when I played daily Tetris.

<strong>Erin Frost:</strong> I don't see patterns in everything, but I'm very good at spotting cat whiskers on the floor. Shaun calls me Eagle Eye. <p>&nbsp;</p>

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		<title>David O&#8217;Brien Artist Interview: Manipulating Organism Through Art</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2012/david-obrien-artist-interview-manipulating-organism-through-art/"><strong>David O&#8217;Brien Artist Interview</strong>: Manipulating Organism Through Art</a></p><p><p><img width="730" height="608" src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/2012_David-O-Brien-01.jpg" class="attachment-post-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="2012_David-O-Brien-01" /></p><strong>June 2012 Interview</strong>

<div class="IntroText">By taking an open and intuitive approach to creation, Los Angeles-based artist David O'Brien found himself led, by chance and circumstance, toward the subject matter and themes which would later serve to help shape his artistic style.

Without knowing anything about David O'Brien, one can seemingly infer a lot about his works. Due to their complexity, it's quite unlikely that the pieces are carefully pre-determined. Their color schemes are bright and engaging, and they contain great composition and good use of negative space.

These are the givens.

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What isn't a given is how profound O'Brien's works actually are beneath their vibrant exteriors. They might be easy to describe generically as "explorations of relationships between shape and color" -- a description you could give artists in any coffee shop across the country -- but they're much more than just instantly gratifying eye candy. They're steeped deep in concepts, ranging from the abstract documentation of explosions and fictional landscapes to more complex musings on how to visually quantify human biological processes. And with every new series O'Brien works on, his ideas are become more robust and scientifically- inspired. Organic influences, coupled with his background in architecture, result in art that is equal parts methodical calculation and natural adaptation, with underlying structures that are obvious, yet manifest themselves in extremely unpredictable ways.

O'Brien's latest project, <em>My Pet Doppelganger</em>, takes thousands of personal photographs and explores the idea of digital doppelgangers via the internet and social media, by way of chaotic yet finely planned orientations. Read the two Q&A interview below for a retrospective look at a wide cross-section of O'Brien's visual projects.</div><p>&nbsp;</p><span id="more-5498"></span>

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<span class="InterviewQ"><em>My Pet Doppelganger</em> is themed around the idea of each of us living with multiple doppelgangers in the digital age, correct? What first led you to this idea?</span>

The word doppelganger means "double walker".  It's about the contemporary notion of constructed and cultivated self-images.  Anyone setting up accounts or profiles online is engaging in a kind of construction of an alternate self.  Most of us have developed several of these over the years.  I'm interested in what all of the doubles and duplicates look like in aggregate.  This photography project is a way for me to abstract and formalize that exploration.  A photo is quick kind of body-double, which of course has been around for much longer than so-called social media.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">I would expect works like this would spark much conversation and that there would be other interpretations as well. Can you tell me a bit about other interpretations you've heard or related conceptual or theoretical conversations you've had about the series?</span>

The work is very new so these conversations are just beginning.  The thing that people seem to find most surprising are the formal drivers of composition.  Many just assume there is some sort of computer algorithm at work but there is not, and this is very important from a conceptual standpoint.  People are placed next to each other in compositions based on things like body language, a shared glance or facial expression.  They also come together based on real-world social relationships.  People that are actual friends will sometimes appear floating together.  These are very intuitive things, things an algorithm or generative computer program could never do, and this how the compositions grow.  I literally do feel like I "grow" them, like plants.  The shapes and textures you see come from millions of unique and personal and sometimes chance relationships.  Simples rules are aggregated into large groups and complexity emerges.    <p>&nbsp;</p> 
<span class="InterviewQ">You made evident in previous interviews that you're very much interested in biology. Was that central to this work, as well? If so, what are some of the parallels you saw while working?</span>

It is still front and center in a lot of ways.  I've always been interested in emergent behaviour in the natural world, and the way I describe growing compositions above is classic emergence.  I guess if you were going to get technical about it maybe my interests have shifted slightly from realm of biology into behavioral patterns and sociology.  But I'm an artist, not a scientist.  I just follow my interests.
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<span class="InterviewQ">Taking a photographic approach is quite a departure from your previous work, at least in medium, though in principle it is similar. Why the change, and will you continue to work with other pieces?</span>

I've learned that as an artist it is important to be rigorously breaking your own rules on a regular basis.  If you can't do that, you'll just stagnate and die.  This is much tougher than you might think and sometimes only results in incremental change, but it is how you keep evolving.  Hey, there's biology again.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Did you know much about the subjects that were photographed? Other than the obvious visual relationships found in the pieces, were there any patterns that came to reveal themselves, sociologically or psychologically speaking, with relationship to the subjects and how they were arranged in the image?</span>

My answer would be see question #2!  Yes, absolutely!  This is another thing that people viewing the work might have no idea about.  Everyone in the work  is someone I know personally or at least tangentially.  Many are people who are in my life every day.  I could tell you a story about every image, so it is incredibly socially driven.  In some ways you could argue that it is a giant self portrait via everyone that I know.  (Although I haven't gotten everyone yet; I'm still working.)  But you know, this project has opened some other possibilities as well.  It doesn't have to be just my world, I'm working on potentially going to other places and doing the same thing with totally different groups of people.  How would the work change if I were documenting a small village in Bolivia, or some particular groups of kids in Tokyo or some other city?  Would there be entirely different colors? Different patterns? It's fun to dream about.

You know there is one other thing worth mentioning.  Many of the people in the photographs are other artists and writers.  So really what you are seeing is this huge pool of creative people, some of whom are incredibly successful if you recognize them.  I haven't really talked much about this aspect of the work, but I think it is an interesting one.
<p>&nbsp;</p><div class="InterviewRight"><h5>Philippe Halsman's <em>Jump</em> Series</h5>
<small><a href="http://www.laurencemillergallery.com/halsman_jump2.html" target="new">SEE MORE</a></small>

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<small><em>Popcorn Nude, Dali</em>, 1949
14 x 11" silver print
Stamped on verso</small></div>
<span class="InterviewQ">In the actual act of photographing the subjects, what was the process like, and how much freedom of movement was encouraged or allowed?</span>

It is totally freeform.  At each photo session I encouraged everyone to just jump in the air and be free.  Some were really brilliant about twisting and contorted and reacted in unpredictable ways.  Some were nervous and stiff, some were just goofy.  The goal was to capture some atom of identity at that moment in time.  A lot is revealed about a person when you ask them to jump in the air - we owe a little to Philippe Halsman for that one.  All-of-the-above works and makes this crazy swirling current of humanity.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Could you explain what you mean about Philippe Halsman?</span>

Oh sure, Philippe Halsman was a photographer from the '40s and '50s (RIGHT).  He made this whole series of photos called Jump Photos, the most famous were images of Marilyn Monroe jumping and one of Richard Nixon levitating in the air.  He even worked with <a href="/tag/salvador-dali">Salvador Dali</a> making these really amazing photo experiments.  He had this notion which he called jumpology, which was that you could instantly tell all these things about a person when you saw them jump off the ground - that their body language in the air gives all this secret information about their personality.  I can say that it is definitely true.  In some ways maybe I am continuing his project on a mass scale.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Is there anything else you'd like to add?</span>

Yes -- thank you!  I've worked so hard on this, I really appreciate your interest and questions!  Also huge thanks to everyone involved so far.  This work is a true collaboration and it wouldn't exist without everyone who has come and participated.  It is not about tele-presence, it is about real presence; actually being there, so thank you to everyone involved.  
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<h5><a href="http://www.davidobrien.com/" target="new">www.davidobrien.com</a></h5>

<hr />

<strong>February 2010 Interview</strong>

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2010_david-obrien.jpg" alt="david o'brien" title="2010_david-obrien" class="aligncenter" /></a>

<span class="InterviewQ">What is it about organisms and the natural world that most interests you?</span>

My work is focused on the connections between biological and cultural evolution. The questions I explore manifest in games of unfolding, simulating and diagramming living systems. Some questions I ask myself are: how do multiple individually driven entities conspire to form patterns, which we can then point to as larger singularities? What changes as the field becomes populated and complexity arises? How does the figure emerge from the field? And then, of course, how does this larger structure feed back into the desires, motivations and evolution of individuals?
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Do you have a background in science?</span>

Honestly, I don't. Art is often about doing something intuitive and then trying to understand why you did it and where it can take you. So, I've been more or less led into science by what the work is telling me. These days, a fair amount of my time is dedicated to studying scientific literature from people like Claude Levi-Strauss or Edward O. Wilson.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Are there any particular ideas you're thinking of exploring in the future?</span>

Well, concentration on the genetic process is definitely where my work is going, but I also bounce back and forth between all of the forms I've created so far. So, they all continue to evolve together.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">How long does it take you to generally complete a piece?</span>

Anywhere from a couple weeks to 6 months.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">How much of a perfectionist are you? Do you pay attention to the details or mostly just the big picture?</span>

I try not to plan things too much. All of the work is based on micro growth to develop the macro form, so I focus only on the small scale and let the overall thing take care of itself. In terms of details, sometimes it just has to be perfect. It has to be absolutely razor sharp. But then sometimes I have to force myself to get loose in order to try new things. Other times I experience a sort of cathartic backlash to all the precision and I just go off on something completely fast and messy just to keep myself sane. But I always return to the more meticulous and carefully constructed work. I notice that about myself.

<p></p>
<h5>Current Body Of Work</h5>
O'Brien's most recent body of work, which is currently still untitled, is a look at the basic genetic processes which happen in the body.

<strong>(ABOVE) <em>Meiosis</em></strong>
"Specifically, meiosis is the process by which sex cells split all of their chromosomes in half in preparation to accept and be joined to foreign DNA after sex. It is what happens in sperm and egg cells in us and in almost every living animal. It's an endlessly fascinating thing, for obvious reasons... "Within [Meiosis], there are exactly 23 uniquely colored strands (female) matching the 23 ‘trajectories' (male) entering from the perimeter."

<hr>

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<small>(ABOVE) <em>Flower Bomb 2</em></small>

<h5>Rapid Organic Growth</h5>
By mimicking a child-like creation, O'Brien captures the frenzied growth of nature without reservations.

"Nature is sometimes creeping slowly and sometimes out of control. Too much detail can lead to decadence, and sometimes physical force is required as a sort of mental catharsis. These things happen the fastest and are often the strongest colors I have been able to achieve. But they are also the things that I understand the least. They are viscerally connected to bodily movement and action and stand for a sort of plant-life explosion."

<hr>

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<small>(ABOVE) <em>Mating Dance</em></small>

<h5>Labryinths</h5>
At the very heart of this piece is a maze with only one way in and one way out, yet with many possible routes one can take to reach the end.

"What the maze is really about is the ability to wander within a very rigid, linear structure... With so much non-linear thinking going on these days, it is humbling to be reminded of the fact that there are still many things in life that are incredibly linear. We eat food; it goes through a line and comes out the other end. We are born once and we die once. What happens in-between is totally variable."

<hr>

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<small>(ABOVE) <em>Ring Formation</em></small>

<h5>Memes</h5>
"Meme is a term coined by the biologist Richard Dawkins back in the '70s. It is supposed to rhyme with (and relate to) the word gene, only instead of dealing with the transmission of biological information, the meme is about the replication and spread of ideas. I began drawing these large swarms of colored people purely out of intuition well before I discovered memes. I only knew that they all followed each other and developed certain behavior and patterns. When I discovered the concept of the meme and learned a more about it, it fit perfectly with what I wanted to communicate with the drawings."

<hr>

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<small>(ABOVE) <em>Blood And The Magic Number</em></small>

<h5>Explosions</h5>
"It's a re-thinking of the idea of [explosions in] platonic form. Instead of the triangle or the cube, I like the explosion as archetypal form. There is also the cloud and the spiral."

<p></p>
<h3><a href="http://www.davidobrienartwork.com" target="new">www.davidobrienartwork.com</a></h3></p></p><p><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com">music art film review - REDEFINE magazine</a> <br /><br /><a href="http://www.redefinemag.com/2012/david-obrien-artist-interview-manipulating-organism-through-art/"><strong>David O&#8217;Brien Artist Interview</strong>: Manipulating Organism Through Art</a></p><div class='yarpp-related-rss'>

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<div class="IntroText">By taking an open and intuitive approach to creation, Los Angeles-based artist David O'Brien found himself led, by chance and circumstance, toward the subject matter and themes which would later serve to help shape his artistic style.

Without knowing anything about David O'Brien, one can seemingly infer a lot about his works. Due to their complexity, it's quite unlikely that the pieces are carefully pre-determined. Their color schemes are bright and engaging, and they contain great composition and good use of negative space.

These are the givens.

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What isn't a given is how profound O'Brien's works actually are beneath their vibrant exteriors. They might be easy to describe generically as "explorations of relationships between shape and color" -- a description you could give artists in any coffee shop across the country -- but they're much more than just instantly gratifying eye candy. They're steeped deep in concepts, ranging from the abstract documentation of explosions and fictional landscapes to more complex musings on how to visually quantify human biological processes. And with every new series O'Brien works on, his ideas are become more robust and scientifically- inspired. Organic influences, coupled with his background in architecture, result in art that is equal parts methodical calculation and natural adaptation, with underlying structures that are obvious, yet manifest themselves in extremely unpredictable ways.

O'Brien's latest project, <em>My Pet Doppelganger</em>, takes thousands of personal photographs and explores the idea of digital doppelgangers via the internet and social media, by way of chaotic yet finely planned orientations. Read the two Q&A interview below for a retrospective look at a wide cross-section of O'Brien's visual projects.</div><p>&nbsp;</p><span id="more-5498"></span>

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<span class="InterviewQ"><em>My Pet Doppelganger</em> is themed around the idea of each of us living with multiple doppelgangers in the digital age, correct? What first led you to this idea?</span>

The word doppelganger means "double walker".  It's about the contemporary notion of constructed and cultivated self-images.  Anyone setting up accounts or profiles online is engaging in a kind of construction of an alternate self.  Most of us have developed several of these over the years.  I'm interested in what all of the doubles and duplicates look like in aggregate.  This photography project is a way for me to abstract and formalize that exploration.  A photo is quick kind of body-double, which of course has been around for much longer than so-called social media.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">I would expect works like this would spark much conversation and that there would be other interpretations as well. Can you tell me a bit about other interpretations you've heard or related conceptual or theoretical conversations you've had about the series?</span>

The work is very new so these conversations are just beginning.  The thing that people seem to find most surprising are the formal drivers of composition.  Many just assume there is some sort of computer algorithm at work but there is not, and this is very important from a conceptual standpoint.  People are placed next to each other in compositions based on things like body language, a shared glance or facial expression.  They also come together based on real-world social relationships.  People that are actual friends will sometimes appear floating together.  These are very intuitive things, things an algorithm or generative computer program could never do, and this how the compositions grow.  I literally do feel like I "grow" them, like plants.  The shapes and textures you see come from millions of unique and personal and sometimes chance relationships.  Simples rules are aggregated into large groups and complexity emerges.    <p>&nbsp;</p> 
<span class="InterviewQ">You made evident in previous interviews that you're very much interested in biology. Was that central to this work, as well? If so, what are some of the parallels you saw while working?</span>

It is still front and center in a lot of ways.  I've always been interested in emergent behaviour in the natural world, and the way I describe growing compositions above is classic emergence.  I guess if you were going to get technical about it maybe my interests have shifted slightly from realm of biology into behavioral patterns and sociology.  But I'm an artist, not a scientist.  I just follow my interests.
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<span class="InterviewQ">Taking a photographic approach is quite a departure from your previous work, at least in medium, though in principle it is similar. Why the change, and will you continue to work with other pieces?</span>

I've learned that as an artist it is important to be rigorously breaking your own rules on a regular basis.  If you can't do that, you'll just stagnate and die.  This is much tougher than you might think and sometimes only results in incremental change, but it is how you keep evolving.  Hey, there's biology again.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Did you know much about the subjects that were photographed? Other than the obvious visual relationships found in the pieces, were there any patterns that came to reveal themselves, sociologically or psychologically speaking, with relationship to the subjects and how they were arranged in the image?</span>

My answer would be see question #2!  Yes, absolutely!  This is another thing that people viewing the work might have no idea about.  Everyone in the work  is someone I know personally or at least tangentially.  Many are people who are in my life every day.  I could tell you a story about every image, so it is incredibly socially driven.  In some ways you could argue that it is a giant self portrait via everyone that I know.  (Although I haven't gotten everyone yet; I'm still working.)  But you know, this project has opened some other possibilities as well.  It doesn't have to be just my world, I'm working on potentially going to other places and doing the same thing with totally different groups of people.  How would the work change if I were documenting a small village in Bolivia, or some particular groups of kids in Tokyo or some other city?  Would there be entirely different colors? Different patterns? It's fun to dream about.

You know there is one other thing worth mentioning.  Many of the people in the photographs are other artists and writers.  So really what you are seeing is this huge pool of creative people, some of whom are incredibly successful if you recognize them.  I haven't really talked much about this aspect of the work, but I think it is an interesting one.
<p>&nbsp;</p><div class="InterviewRight"><h5>Philippe Halsman's <em>Jump</em> Series</h5>
<small><a href="http://www.laurencemillergallery.com/halsman_jump2.html" target="new">SEE MORE</a></small>

<img src="http://www.redefinemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2012_Philippe-Halsman-01.jpg" alt="" title="2012_Philippe-Halsman-01" width="340" height="433" class="alignright size-full wp-image-17693" />
<small><em>Popcorn Nude, Dali</em>, 1949
14 x 11" silver print
Stamped on verso</small></div>
<span class="InterviewQ">In the actual act of photographing the subjects, what was the process like, and how much freedom of movement was encouraged or allowed?</span>

It is totally freeform.  At each photo session I encouraged everyone to just jump in the air and be free.  Some were really brilliant about twisting and contorted and reacted in unpredictable ways.  Some were nervous and stiff, some were just goofy.  The goal was to capture some atom of identity at that moment in time.  A lot is revealed about a person when you ask them to jump in the air - we owe a little to Philippe Halsman for that one.  All-of-the-above works and makes this crazy swirling current of humanity.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Could you explain what you mean about Philippe Halsman?</span>

Oh sure, Philippe Halsman was a photographer from the '40s and '50s (RIGHT).  He made this whole series of photos called Jump Photos, the most famous were images of Marilyn Monroe jumping and one of Richard Nixon levitating in the air.  He even worked with <a href="/tag/salvador-dali">Salvador Dali</a> making these really amazing photo experiments.  He had this notion which he called jumpology, which was that you could instantly tell all these things about a person when you saw them jump off the ground - that their body language in the air gives all this secret information about their personality.  I can say that it is definitely true.  In some ways maybe I am continuing his project on a mass scale.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Is there anything else you'd like to add?</span>

Yes -- thank you!  I've worked so hard on this, I really appreciate your interest and questions!  Also huge thanks to everyone involved so far.  This work is a true collaboration and it wouldn't exist without everyone who has come and participated.  It is not about tele-presence, it is about real presence; actually being there, so thank you to everyone involved.  
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<h5><a href="http://www.davidobrien.com/" target="new">www.davidobrien.com</a></h5>

<hr />

<strong>February 2010 Interview</strong>

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<span class="InterviewQ">What is it about organisms and the natural world that most interests you?</span>

My work is focused on the connections between biological and cultural evolution. The questions I explore manifest in games of unfolding, simulating and diagramming living systems. Some questions I ask myself are: how do multiple individually driven entities conspire to form patterns, which we can then point to as larger singularities? What changes as the field becomes populated and complexity arises? How does the figure emerge from the field? And then, of course, how does this larger structure feed back into the desires, motivations and evolution of individuals?
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Do you have a background in science?</span>

Honestly, I don't. Art is often about doing something intuitive and then trying to understand why you did it and where it can take you. So, I've been more or less led into science by what the work is telling me. These days, a fair amount of my time is dedicated to studying scientific literature from people like Claude Levi-Strauss or Edward O. Wilson.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">Are there any particular ideas you're thinking of exploring in the future?</span>

Well, concentration on the genetic process is definitely where my work is going, but I also bounce back and forth between all of the forms I've created so far. So, they all continue to evolve together.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">How long does it take you to generally complete a piece?</span>

Anywhere from a couple weeks to 6 months.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<span class="InterviewQ">How much of a perfectionist are you? Do you pay attention to the details or mostly just the big picture?</span>

I try not to plan things too much. All of the work is based on micro growth to develop the macro form, so I focus only on the small scale and let the overall thing take care of itself. In terms of details, sometimes it just has to be perfect. It has to be absolutely razor sharp. But then sometimes I have to force myself to get loose in order to try new things. Other times I experience a sort of cathartic backlash to all the precision and I just go off on something completely fast and messy just to keep myself sane. But I always return to the more meticulous and carefully constructed work. I notice that about myself.

<p></p>
<h5>Current Body Of Work</h5>
O'Brien's most recent body of work, which is currently still untitled, is a look at the basic genetic processes which happen in the body.

<strong>(ABOVE) <em>Meiosis</em></strong>
"Specifically, meiosis is the process by which sex cells split all of their chromosomes in half in preparation to accept and be joined to foreign DNA after sex. It is what happens in sperm and egg cells in us and in almost every living animal. It's an endlessly fascinating thing, for obvious reasons... "Within [Meiosis], there are exactly 23 uniquely colored strands (female) matching the 23 ‘trajectories' (male) entering from the perimeter."

<hr>

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<small>(ABOVE) <em>Flower Bomb 2</em></small>

<h5>Rapid Organic Growth</h5>
By mimicking a child-like creation, O'Brien captures the frenzied growth of nature without reservations.

"Nature is sometimes creeping slowly and sometimes out of control. Too much detail can lead to decadence, and sometimes physical force is required as a sort of mental catharsis. These things happen the fastest and are often the strongest colors I have been able to achieve. But they are also the things that I understand the least. They are viscerally connected to bodily movement and action and stand for a sort of plant-life explosion."

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<small>(ABOVE) <em>Mating Dance</em></small>

<h5>Labryinths</h5>
At the very heart of this piece is a maze with only one way in and one way out, yet with many possible routes one can take to reach the end.

"What the maze is really about is the ability to wander within a very rigid, linear structure... With so much non-linear thinking going on these days, it is humbling to be reminded of the fact that there are still many things in life that are incredibly linear. We eat food; it goes through a line and comes out the other end. We are born once and we die once. What happens in-between is totally variable."

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<small>(ABOVE) <em>Ring Formation</em></small>

<h5>Memes</h5>
"Meme is a term coined by the biologist Richard Dawkins back in the '70s. It is supposed to rhyme with (and relate to) the word gene, only instead of dealing with the transmission of biological information, the meme is about the replication and spread of ideas. I began drawing these large swarms of colored people purely out of intuition well before I discovered memes. I only knew that they all followed each other and developed certain behavior and patterns. When I discovered the concept of the meme and learned a more about it, it fit perfectly with what I wanted to communicate with the drawings."

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<small>(ABOVE) <em>Blood And The Magic Number</em></small>

<h5>Explosions</h5>
"It's a re-thinking of the idea of [explosions in] platonic form. Instead of the triangle or the cube, I like the explosion as archetypal form. There is also the cloud and the spiral."

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